Author Topic: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
VadersLaMent  20355 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 4:19pm Subject: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Believing that the universe may contain alien life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer said in an interview published Tuesday.


1) Oh well thank goodness I have their permission now.

2) "Ok to believe" is a bit general. How about "I believe in the possibility".

3) But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."---And he calls himself an astronomer after this statement? Perhaps he was just generalizing with the "chance" thing, after all we all generalize until a thread sinks down to a semantic debate.




 

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Jedi_Hood  16449 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 4:21pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
VadersLaMent posted:
But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."---And he calls himself an astronomer after this statement?


Why not? Natural science is not incompatible with Catholic teaching.

 

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Lord_Vivec  11215 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 4:22pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Not all scientists need be atheists, VLM. It's okay for some of us faithful people to go into science.

 

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DarthPoojaNaberrie  5505 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 4:24pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
VadersLaMent posted:
Oh well thank goodness I have their permission now.


I dunno, from the article I kinda got the impression they were speaking mainly to the catholics. I didn't think you were catholic, so...

 

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ophelia  10025 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 5:00pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Actually, that article's not about "the Catholic Church," it's the opinion of one dude who was interviewed by a newspaper.

For some reason, the distinction gets lost all the time. tongue

To my knowledge, there is no official Catholic doctrine on aliens either way--although I guess that can sort of be taken to mean the same thing as being "allowed to believe."

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Date Posted: 5/13 5:02pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
When the Vatican makes announcements like that it only applies to Catholics, since contrary to popular opinion the Pope/Vatican does not represent all the other Christian religions.

Its nice to know that I am now allowed to believe in aliens, though I've believed in them for years so having permission now is nice. tongue

 

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mrsvos  3992 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 5:20pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
I'll bet they're are taking this stand because someone stold some ancient texts they were hiding and are about to reveal them.
They are all about ancient astronaughts.
I'm calling Graham Hancock right now.

 

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Master-Fett  11665 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 5:26pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
mrsvos posted:
I'll bet they're are taking this stand because someone stold some ancient texts they were hiding and are about to reveal them.
They are all about ancient astronaughts.
I'm calling Graham Hancock right now.

"Hey Pope, this is NASA. Listen, we're about to make a big announcement on Wednesday... and I just figured I'd give give you a heads up..."

 

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DarthBreezy  12071 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 5:45pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
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"Hey Pope, this is NASA. Listen, we're about to make a big announcement on Wednesday... and I just figured I'd give give you a heads up..."



angry You beat me to it! angry

 

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ObiWan506  25389 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 5:50pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
I think people get so tied up in religion when they are always trying to figure out what they can do and what they can't do. They miss the whole point which is to have a relationship with God. I do that too though. I always try to see what I can do, what I can think, etc. and I miss the whole point as well.

 

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Suzuki_Akira  20710 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:06pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
VadersLaMent posted:

3) But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."---And he calls himself an astronomer after this statement?




Explain please.

 

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Lord_Vivec  11215 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:11pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Suzuki_Akira posted:
VadersLaMent posted:

3) But he said he continues to believe that "God is the creator of the universe and that we are not the result of chance."---And he calls himself an astronomer after this statement?




Explain please.

VLM goes by the belief that only atheists have the right to call themselves scientists. As a scientist/engineer in training, I have come across a lot of individuals who hold such viewpoints. However, they find that they are wrong.

 

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Suzuki_Akira  20710 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:12pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
That's what it looks like he's saying, but I don't want to put words in his mouth. I'll let him explain for himself.

 

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Darth_Guy  44174 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:20pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Well, as an astronomer he can't say something like that (because, you know, he needs data and such); but as a representative of the Catholic Church he can say whatever the hell he wants.

 

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JediJeffro  8294 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:27pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens

 

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Suzuki_Akira  20710 posts
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Date Posted: 5/13 6:28pm Subject: RE: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens
Darth_Guy posted:
Well, as an astronomer he can't say something like that (because, you know, he needs data and such); but as a representative of the Catholic Church he can say whatever the hell he wants.


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