Author Topic: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
LaraNotsil 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:29am Subject: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
Well I wanna hear what you guys have to say about this, personally I say the egg, and here's my reason...a chicken had to evolve from some pre-chicken ancestor, so a chicken would come from an egg laid by a pre-chicken ancestor, so I say the egg is first...

What do you think?

 

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jediguy 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:35am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
Yes, I agree, the Egg came first.

 

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Darth_Dagsy 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:36am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
For your theory to hold up, the eggs parents must be very different from their hatchling progeny. You must be able to partition chicken and non-chicken at this exact offspring event.

Given that evolution is so gradual, the parents of said chicken will basically be the same as the chicken.

Hence it isnt the case that the egg had to come first.

 

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LaraNotsil 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:36am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
whoa...

Did I manage to make a decent point in that first post?

 

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LaraNotsil 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:38am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
Ah ha,

They would be extremely similar to a chicken but not exactly...

 

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Darth_Dagsy 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:41am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
But not sodifferent that you could define that offspring event as giving rise ot what we know as the chicken.

To us, the parents would look, act, taste, everything exactly like a chicken would.

 

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LaraNotsil 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:43am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
but by definition there has to be a line, where something at some point you begin calling a chicken, at that line is where it begins...

 

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Debo 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:44am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
I know the definitive answer.

Before the egg, there was a different kind of chicken.

See my sig.

 

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LaraNotsil 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:45am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
um...?

 

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Darth_Dagsy 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:46am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
No, Lara. There is noline.

Evolution is gradual.

Do you think there is a definitive line that seperates man from our ape-like ancestor?

It all happens over many many years. We have no specific point at which we can say "This is a man, anything before was not"

 

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ArtificialStupidity 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:47am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
If trying to look at this subject from a scientifical view-point, we are facing an impossible mission. Yet it is obvious that Chicken indeed evolved - via the selection by Nature ( based upon the environment, et cetera ), or breeding by Humans - from a life-form that existed.




Due to the theory Dagsy offered, we could assume that the chicken, as existing before the egg, is a possibility - yet the Egg, giving birth to the first Chicken ( as we know the species ), had to be first.

 

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Night4554 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:50am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
Depends as said:

By God: chicken
By evolution: egg

Of course we could all stop complainning and have a egg sandwitch and a chicken whopper but that'd be too easy right?

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Darth_Dagsy 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 7:56am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
AS, my point is that there is no 'first chicken'. Its all so gradual that you would never be able to say 'this egg gave the first chicken'

As such, there are chickens, there are eggs.

But neither was first.

 

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Hama 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 10:49am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
I believe in Creation, so I say the chicken.

Which came first: the Chicken McNugget or the Egg McMuffin?

 

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Darth-Jaguar 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 10:50am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg?
Dinosaur before either the chicken or the chicken's egg.

 

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Obi-Zahn Kenobi 
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Date Posted: 4/20/02 10:51am Subject: RE: The Final Decision: The chicken, or the egg? - Date Edited: 4/20/02 10:53am (1 edits total) Edited By: Obi-Zahn Kenobi
What Hama said...

And that question has been bothering me for years...

What came first, the Chicken McNugget, or the Egg McMuffin?

EDIT: But then what came first? The Dinosaur or the Egg?

 

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