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The_Phinzx Registered: Nov '02	Date Posted: 5/15/03 2:01am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~ - Date Edited: 5/15/03 2:03am (1 edits total) Edited By: The_Phinzx
	(no reply) sorry my bad -----signature----- The television screen is the retina of the mind's eye Therefore the television screen is part of the physical structure of the brain. Therefore, whatever appears on the television screen emerges as raw experience for those who watch it.
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Gandalf the Grey Registered: May '00	Date Posted: 5/15/03 3:14am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Saw the Matrix: Reloaded last night at a midnight showing. First forty five minutes or so were pretty slow. Fight scenes that go on for five minutes are one thing. Scenes of people dancing for five minutes aren’t quite so interesting, especially when the dancing is just the informal “move the body to the music” sort. Many of the fight scenes lasted far, far too long. I’d rather be left wanting more than to get bored watching a fight scene, which happened twice for me. The “death” of one character felt too similar to Neo’s “death” in the Matrix. The plot wasn’t exactly the deepest in the world, but there were some fun twists and turns along the way. Aside from those mixed gripes, it was generally a fun movie. The plot twists were the best part of the show by far, especially Neo’s very last fight at the very end. The Good Fun plot twists. Fight scenes were fun to watch, at first at least. Colonel Sanders is Satan. The Bad Scenes drag on way, way too long. Too much time in Zion. Repeated a bunch of events from the first film. Overall: I actually liked it better than the first film. * out of **. -----signature----- I play far, far too much World of Warcraft. L70s on Staghelm: Hopefire (Paladin), Silverbow (Hunter), Shadowhope (Rogue), Silverfire (Mage)
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Darth_Benji Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 5/15/03 3:19am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	can we get some spoilers? jus black em out pwease Darth Benji, Only Because Jedi_Benji was Banned -----signature----- ----- You Never Knew the Power of the Dark Side ----- ----- It Is Your Destiny----- ----- I find your Lack of Faith Disturbing ------ Sock of Jedi_Benji
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Sau-Den Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/15/03 5:28am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Okay, the movie rocks! Yes there are more kung-fu fight scenes to count but theyre cool! I loved this movie, but some parts I had a little trouble following...SPOILERS below.... *SPOILERS* Okay, now what all did we learn from the Matrix's architect? I think I may have gotten a basic idea of it put could someone who understood what he said pleace explain it to me in simpler terms and not talk like a computer? END SPOILERS Not much for spoilers there I guess -----signature----- Creator of "The Movie Spoof" Trilogy "Pain is temporary, film is forever" "Sorry doesn't put Humpty Dumpty back together again." http://www.moviespoof2.cjb.net http://www.maximusfilms.cjb.net
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anidanami124 Registered: Aug '02	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:05am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	The fight and action scenes same thing I know were very good very well down. The freeway action scene best ever. Or as for the story still needed a little work it was there but the action over shadowed it. The scenes in Zion. Maybe a little less of Zion. There were parts that I thought did not even need to be in the movie because it slowed it down a lot. The part that slowed it down big time IMO was that party scene. They did not need that. But other then that ******out of******** -----signature----- Dark Lords of the JCC My Heros of Music Epica 1. Simone Simons 2. Mark Jansen 3. Yves Huts 4. Coen Janssen 5. Ad Sluijter 6. Jeroen Simons 1)ROTS 2)TESB 3)TPM 4)AOTC 5)ANH 6)ROTJ
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Tobey-Wan Title: FanForce CR Northwest Ohio Registered: Jun '01	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:28am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	I really enjoyed the movie, but it was VERY slow at the beginning. I really didn't care about people dancing and lovemaking (especially without gratuitous female nudity!). And Neo's fight with "The Smith's" just took way too long. I thought the soundtrack fit in very well. "Mona Lisa Overdrive" during the car chase gave me shivers. The Revolutions trailer looked very cool at the end, hopefully they did a better job of "filling" that movie. -----signature----- Geriatric Ward Suite 303 Northwest Ohio FanForce - Black Swamp Squadron Visit Us At: http://boards.theforce.net/Northwest_Ohio/b10174/ http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Malfurion&n=Xanatos
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Darth Sin Registered: Oct '99	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:29am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Reloaded was fantastic and fun. The action was great and the story was good. I have to say and agree with a few that there were some slow parts; however we must remember this is the middle act and it is setting up for the end. I think after Revolutions comes out, we will understand why there was so much time spent in Zion. One thing is definite, the "rabbit hole" gets deeper than before. I will say that the architect of the Matrix is somewhat hard to understand, so I am going back again and again until I understand what he was talking about. One other thing, we definitely see that Neo is the One. I am disappointed that he did not have a direct fight with the ghost twins. I wanted to see what he would do to them. Darth Sin! -----signature----- "I see you becoming the greatest of all Jedi": Palpatine Lamont: "Martial arts is the oldest form of self defense" Grady: "It ain't older than running" Yoda: The Force is used for knowledge and defense, never for attack
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Face Loran Registered: Mar '99	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:30am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	I loved it. I thought it completely lived up to my expectations. -----signature----- "Face, you're a genius!! " - PAd
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Luke_Skywalker_12 Registered: Sep '02	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:37am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	I know it came out today,but I'm going to have to wait ountil tommorow to go see it -----signature----- The Future is not set. There is no fate but what we make!
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dp4m Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 5/15/03 6:38am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Okay, now what all did we learn from the Matrix's architect? I think I may have gotten a basic idea of it put could someone who understood what he said pleace explain it to me in simpler terms and not talk like a computer? *MAJOR SPOILERS UPCOMING, ABANDON ALL HOPE YE WHO ENTER HERE* Highlight: Basically, what we learned is that the Architect built The Matrix. He built the FIRST Matrix as a perfect utopian paradise... and humans rejected it because we're, by nature, imperfect, flawed creatures -- because we require CHOICE. So there was a specific program created to analyze and understand human behavior -- what we know as the Oracle -- and she determined that humans would 99% accept the Matrix as long as they had a choice in the matter, even if the choice was at a deep subconscious level. HOWEVER, by programming this ability for choice into the system, it created an inherently imperfect subroutine -- since choice cannot accurately be predicted -- and that rounding error of sorts is what's called a "systemic anomaly," or The One. So the 1% of humans who reject The Matrix end up forming Zion and luring more people out of the Matrix, however -- this is a repeating process so Zion has been formed, and The One found, FIVE TIMES already. The machines have destroyed Zion and The One the same five times and have become "exceedingly good at it." So now the Architect gave Neo the choice -- continue with that recursive causality loop (i.e. Zion would be destroyed but the human race would continue), or save Trinity and confine the human race to extinction. -----signature----- "Looks like you're about to get pwned" - Eric Cartman "Awarding experience points for cleverly and creatively generating an enjoyable experience. How warped is that?" - Darths & Droids
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Lord_Gita Title: Former TFN FanFilms Staff Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 5/15/03 7:08am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~ - Date Edited: 5/15/03 7:11am (2 edits total) Edited By: dp4m
	I understood it differently... Spoilers: I understood that The One was a construct of the Matrix. A construct whose purpose is to prepare the cycle to begin again by selecting the 16 women and 7 men to begin Zion anew after the machines destroy it. So basically, The One is not some random error that appears as prophesized to save humanity, The One exists because the Matrix created it. Edited your bgcolor a bit... -----signature----- Darryl Roman, TK-383 "We're not a cult so much as a maniacal group of fanatical blade-wielding zealots."
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dp4m Registered: Nov '01	Date Posted: 5/15/03 7:12am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Gita -- I didn't think that was entirely accurate. Certainly that's the CURRENT usage of The One -- but I think that arises from an adaptation of HOW to deal with the systemic error, rather than the cause of it... if that makes any sense... -----signature----- "Looks like you're about to get pwned" - Eric Cartman "Awarding experience points for cleverly and creatively generating an enjoyable experience. How warped is that?" - Darths & Droids
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Lord_Gita Title: Former TFN FanFilms Staff Registered: Oct '00	Date Posted: 5/15/03 7:23am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~ - Date Edited: 5/15/03 7:23am (1 edits total) Edited By: Lord_Gita
	Absolutely, but the systematic error is the allowing of choice, not the existence of The One. As you say The One was created, 5 times, by the Matrix itself or the composing higher programs to help in the perpetuation of the cycle. To me, the whole scene is a longer version of "I am your father." It takes the whole mythos of the first film, the existence of The One as a boone to the Matrix, the prophecy of human freedom, the Oracle, and turns them all around on the viewer. It was the only part of the film that I really liked. But then, interpretation is a matter of choice and as we know, choice is all there is. -----signature----- Darryl Roman, TK-383 "We're not a cult so much as a maniacal group of fanatical blade-wielding zealots."
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JediLight Registered: May '01	Date Posted: 5/15/03 7:38am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~
	Here's my take of Reloaded: The movie was definitely entertaining. I enjoyed the plot twists but really didn't understand the whole thing. Neo was really cool within the Matrix, but the best scenes are: HEAVY SPOILER WARNING: 1) Morpehus finishes off the dreadlock baddies. He gets their car to flip over and blows the car up. Morpheus was so cool. 2) Neo reaches in and pumps Trinity's heart back to life. 3) Neo doing "something" supernatural when he was out of the Matrix. He was able to destroy several Squiddies but the effects sent him in a coma-state. END SPOILERS Quick Review - Overall I give the movie 3 out of 4 stars. I -----signature----- JediLight Near Marathon on 06-09-08 (ROTJ short) Best Episodes: ROTS, ESB; Underrated: TPM; Overrated: AOTC, ANH
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Bullseye Title: FanForce Co-CR Waco, TX Registered: Jan '03	Date Posted: 5/15/03 7:49am Subject: RE: ~ Matrix: Reloaded, Revolutions and Animatrix Discussion Thread ~ - Date Edited: 5/15/03 8:18am (1 edits total) Edited By: Bullseye
	I can't figure this out ****SPOILERS***** Isn't the only place habitable in the "real" world, Zion. So why in the hell were Neo, Trinity, Morphoeus, and Link running around in the sewer system at the end ***END SPOILERS****** -----signature----- Formerlly jango-joe1 Bullseye is engaged to Amidala Starkiller 6/30/03 17:41:20 The first shot we have seen of Episode III 12/12/03
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