Amph "I Am Iron Man" - Iron Man 3 Discussion Thread

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Did you count how many 'fireworks' there were at the end? All Tony had to do was send the full army rushing towards him. He could have hit Killian with all those suits at once as a distraction for example. Throughout the movie, Tony always seemed to have a plan B. I'm sure we should be impressed by Pepper saving Tony, but really that felt more like giving Pepper a decent action scene rather than her being necessary to save Tony.

I get the intention was that he should be in danger. The problem with the film is that he never really seems totally unprepared in the final battle. He's just hopping from one suit to another in what seems like an endless supply- which is certainly backed up by how many explode at the end despite all the ones the Enhanciles took out. That whole thing about the Mark 42 returning for example would have been more awesome if that HAD been the very last suit and then destroyed and then Killian reformed. At that point, a rescue by Pepper would have been more effective. The fact he still had over a dozen suits zooming around the place negated the effectiveness of that rescue to me.

 

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I'm sure we should be impressed by Pepper saving Tony, but really that felt more like giving Pepper a decent action scene rather than her being necessary to save Tony.

Not only are the two not mutually exclusive, but one is a purely out-of-universe consideration. In-universe, regardless of whatever reason it was done, it still happened.

 

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He has to show up his face for obvious security reason.

 

I'll chalk that one up to staff complacency by the Secret Service...

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since we know that only two people can actually fly one of the suits, as stated in Iron Man 2's "you're Iron Man and he just TOOK your suit?" scene and the fact that Pepper had a hard time just running in the Mark 42, combined with the plot hole that never shows exactly how AIM's agents know how to fly the suit.

It's not a major problem. They assumed it was Rhodey, since they've presumably had him traveling with them when making media and campaign stops.

Besides, this is not the first movie in which such a scenario has happened. Air Force One featured one of the President's top agents as a turncoat who allowed Gary Oldman's terrorists aboard, then killing the pilot before trying to kill the President again when the plane was scuttled.

 

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But unlike Air Force One and many other movies, the government was fully alarmed because of those attacks and they made clear they want to kill the president.
Yeah it was never explained how did they let the suit work, and why didn't they kill him after it.

 

Guess I need to get the comic then.

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Even though Tony DID mention AIM as being responsible Iron Patriot's armaments, and thus he was able to hack their system remotely through IP's interface....I guess Hammer could have done the same thing, if he would have thought about it.

 

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So they should perform a check, then GG Killain.

 

I believe it's the "skeleton" suit. There's a MiniMate of it.

 

I saw this today and thought it's the weakest Iron Man movie to date but I still enjoyed it.
I absolutely loved the closing credits. The music and art style they went with was very fun and cool.

 

Reminded me of The Incredibles.

 

Funny thing is, what AIM are trying to do is exactly what Cobra did in the first G.I.JOE movie.

 

Make a potentially interesting franchise into a terrible movie?

 

No,

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Control US and a terrorist organization.

 

Isn't that what most villainous organisations try to do?

The only difference is how they go about achieving it (Cobra used nanotech, AIM used Extremis)

 

It actually reminded me of the Clone Wars. Sort of.

 

Ouch.

 

Probably going to see this again on Thursday. Maybe in 3D this time.

 

That plot, not the movie!

 

"Someday I will be the most powerful Avenger ever!"

 

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Cobra members are not that powerful compare to the Extremis muntants, but overall their members know the discipline well and successfully replaced the President.