Are PT fans favored over OT fans?

Fictional characters are fair game, except for Ahsoka.

 

I like where this is going.

 

I think much hate from the PT lovers is frustration at the fact people seem to hate them simply because they dislike how the direction the movies went in despite them having redeeming qualities. The PT movies have numerous good parts and aren't terrible movies they are just average movies (at least IMO). Many who call them terrible just want to vent their anger at how disappointed they were with the movies because their own expectations were too high which is perfectly understandable. I see it all the time in the JCC movie threads, people hating on decent movies just because they did stuff they thought shouldn't be done (and then insulting the intelligence of anyone who disagrees, so it's hardly limited to just this forum and the mods do even less about it there).
I think the PT fans get it worse, but I can't comment on whether mods favour them or not.


Hating on the OT seems to largely be antagonising the PT-bashers, almost all fans love the OT though as a cinema worker myself I notice there are those who don't like anything made before 1985 and think "old" movies with outdated effects are "boring". Each to one's own, though again I say judge movies on their technical merit and not just your pre-formed opinion.

 

The hell has become of comms?

 

Pffft - er, that is, I see (though am accept corrections) very little "hating on the OT." What the "only the OT is decent" folks are reacting to is the hypocrisy being pointed out if the PT is slammed for "bad dialogue" and so a PT defender points out similar instances in the OT that get a pass.

In short, the "PT haters" (some) hate what they feel is unfair criticism of their sacred cow although they expect the "PT fans" to shut up and accept their criticism - oops, "the truth," of the PT.

Eh...so much for not contributing to this thread anymore. Bad me.

 

Not really... we've gone from "The head admin tried to rape me" to "Somebody told me they don't like TPM and now I'm butthurt. "

 

harpuah: not really. I could care less if others dislike or even hate the PT. I hate them telling me I'm mentally deficient, don't understand good storytelling, or have no taste and "everyone" but us deficients know the PT sucks. I hate it when I have to read this in practically every thread, pertinent to the thread or not. I get it. I do. Many fans hate the PT - must they hate the PT fans as well?

It is funny that the "haters" are now the ones questioning if they're being picked on

That's all.

 

You feel better?

 

Yes, but I feel the same in OOT threads, where I have to hear SE fans tell me that the OOT is outdated, and Lucas shouldn't waste his time on releasing it because its not his vision, and I need to move on and accept all Lucas's changes. As there is a real disdain among the OOT fans from the SE fans.

Many fans hate the OOT - must they hate the OOT fans as well?

 

Come on, you have been around here long enough to know that this is an ongoing issue that stretches across multiple forums.

You were one of the most vocal people about not wanting to go to the TV forum because it was too negative for your liking, not that long ago.

And the administration took some very bold steps to solve that situation(not specific to your own concerns exclusively of course), including the permanent banning of users, the banning of specific images and warnings for using specific terminology that was deemed inappropriate.

Picked on isn't quite the right word, but yes TF.N has been making efforts to tone down the critcism against the product, and its creators - in some forums - for quite a little while now.

 

dat drama

 

I don't see the problem in criticism, I see problem in the arguments presented.
Saying you dislike something and then proceeding to list in a civilized manner what is it you dislike, why and what you think could've worked better and the in an equally civilized manner listening to the other person who should present his/her argument in the same way - that's quite alright. That's discussion. There was recently a page or two discussion about Anakin's fall in ROTS in one of the Ep7 threads and both sides listed their arguments, said fair enough, smiled and agreed to disagree.

The problem comes along when someone can't present any decent arguments and starts insulting on a personal basis and just spewing hate and negativity. Hell, we have that with the Sequel Trilogy and the damn thing isn't even written yet.

And people sometimes tend to overreact. Make a joke or a funny comparison or poke fun at something with no intention of causing an argument - and within minutes you'd be swarmed with people spewing walls of text, attacking, defending and screaming (my all time favorites) "SOURCE?!" and "That's your opinion! Mine is better!"

So... I'm fine with criticism. As long as it's backed up with something that at least tries to resemble a rational thought.

 

Well...that's what I basically said

Don't insult people, present arguments in a civilized manner, no personal attacks and actually have something decent to say if you disagree.
I think we're on the same page here

 

Oh man... lol. Yeah... that wasn't Grimby... sorry, Grimby.

 

It's not even good drama, though...

 

I'm one of the only guys who actively prefers the SE over the OOT (I know, we've argued on this - a LOT!). And while what you said there has some truth, its mostly just me. I've seen other SE fans post in those threads, and then immediately leave when an OOT fan says "you must be insane" (actual quote), or "keep your uninformed opinions to yourself" (actual quote). I stay on cause I'm one of those guys with incredibly thick skin.

Gotta say though, even though tensions were high I very much enjoyed that conversation with you. Much respect, I have towards you. Even though disagree we do.

 

I know right? The newbies need to comb over the old Comms posts to see how Comms drama is done.