ST Master Filmmaking Team announced! JJ now writing the script

Why so?

 

See that's where I differ with Abrams, I think he has amazing character arcs in all his story's, and decent story lines. But his character work to me is always very good, and is truly the core of his films. I think he taps into the emotional core of films very well with characters every time.

 

The dialogue in Jedi isn't the best, but it's still better than 99% of what is in the PT.

 

No worries. I'm not offended. Just accountable to what i write.

Just for the record, I'm one of the voices of reason. I don't think SW is doomed at all if that was intended for me.

 

Additionally, Jett Lucas' comments made it sounds as though George put a lot of time and effort in what he wrote. That suggests treatments, not an outline.

 

Why?

 

Rumor from several reliable sources who cover LFL, is that Abrams has had several meetings with Timothy Zahn

From my talks with friends at Roqoodepot.com
makingstarwars.net,
and JedinewsUK

 

Star Wars will never be doomed, it's far too vast & has too big a fandom for that.

But it's not unreasonable for people to have concerns given the questions that have been raised by these new announcements. More clarification in the coming days/weeks would be good to ease some fan's fears about the direction the movie might be going in.

 

Is this "Horsemen" in reference to Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof as the Three Horsemen of the Apocalypse?

 

Bunch of different things, really. He does come across as preferring "realism" as opposed to Lucas's "fairy tale", as per the stereotype, but judging from what was in the book that wasn't always a good thing, and he failed to live up to his own standards a couple of times.

 

Fair points. He was sometimes the pull when Lucas wanted to push. Yin and Yang kinda thing.

 

Echo-07 It wasn't intended for you, my friend. I had switched gears.

 

1. Orci/Kurtzman did some (fairly decent) work with JJ on Alias, long before the Paramount connection. Hence, I believe, the correlation. I was using them as recognizable shorthand for Bad Robot writers.
2. I just don't think post-90s Kasdan is really the alchemical element that everyone wants him to be. I just don't buy it. Raiders and ROTJ were a long time ago. Mind you, if George ain't around, Kasdan is right at the top of the list of people I'd want working on Star Wars.

 

See I did not take that out of the Rinzler books. But I think at times he was able to reign in some of the "over the top" kind of stuff. And the ideas that he lost out on in ROTJ honestly IMO made it suffer a little. But more so remember the interview that JJ had a while ago? He agreed that SW is a fairy tale, and those were his exact words. So I think they are on the page of making it so. I think the grounded parts that Kasdan bring in help the films a lot, but having JJ understand the fairy tale aspect I think evens it out if it ever became a problem. Which I doubt. But that's what I love about the collaborative process. But again I did not see him coming "across" that way as much. He cares most about characters and that's to me where he wanted the grounded connection so to speak.

 

And that can be a good thing. It's not so good when Lucas just wants to push and no-one attempts to pull at all, as seemed to happen in the PT.

Kasdan will hopefully still push against Abrams at times, which should mean a better creative process.

 

Basically, while I worry that Abrams may well be too close to Star Wars to do a great job writing it, I find myself wondering how well Kasdan "gets" SW in the first place.

Of course, there's plenty of room for change in 30 years, and I don't mean to downplay everything he did.

 

I think it's good to have different personalities working on the films, to have a variety of opinions.

 

Well the good thing about that last sentence is both George and Larry are around this time. They bring out the best in each other IMHO.

 

Yeah and right now their risk of involvement is dramatically higher than what it was. Hell, they could even be consulting right now...

 

It's hard to say, I guess we will see eh? I have more faith in him with that because SW and Indy just seemed to jive with him. And having time to reflect on it more so may have given him even more perspective. But I agree Kasdan is at the top of the list of people I want working on it. So I guess we agree there! And remember Kasdan talked about SW when he was hired last year, about it going back to the "swashbuckling" kind of stuff. So I think he still gets it pretty well.

I did forget Bob and Alex did some stuff on Alias, but the press release flat out said it was just those two, and by WGA standards if they were actually doing it they would have announced that as well. If Alex and Bob get on.....I owe you a Coke. lol.

 

I was going to say it was their scripts but....

 

I disagree. They would have had far more creative input a year ago than four months out from the start of production.