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Huh.

I have info too, guys: Daisy Ridley will have a fair amount of screentime.

 

That is a good point that I haven't thought much about. Imagine after TPM or ANH if those characters were the only ones we'd see for the next two in each trilogy. Can't wait to see what they have in store for us!

 

Lukes actions.... Hmmmm... Tells Rey to kill.... Sacrifices somebody knowingly......shows no mercy to his opponent......just spit balling here peeps. Maybe he learns at the temple that in the very beginning there was no light side/dark side and that its all just one thing and these 2 sides were created by "men with motives" sort of like religion ( I'm a Catholic so I'm not even trying to go there ). I definitely feel like whatever answers Luke is seeking from the temple will play a big part in things. Maybe the force was never meant to be so white and black but Grey.

 

Luke dies.

 

Confirmed Luke loses both eyeballs and falls into a pool of acid while screaming from my point of view it doesn't burn that bad

 

I would think that the obvious way for Luke to "go" would be to vanish like Obi-Wan did in ANH. That way, he's "dead" to put over the new generation of characters, but can still be around. And he'd likely be a lot more involved as a ghost than Obi-Wan was since Hamill is probably more enthusiastic about playing the role.

They could even take a bit from Lucas' original ROTJ script and have Luke return from the netherworld in a physical form, like Obi-Wan and Yoda did. That's on the table as a possibility since they like using some discarded Lucas ideas.

Luke can always come back as a character in other forms, since they're already doing that with Young Han. Disney is going to milk this franchise dry with possibilities and things we once considered fan fic, just now licensed fan fic that's "canon."

 

It's actually really easy to work around the age thing, just don't have them in action-heavy parts moving forward. Leia has a political career, and Luke is mostly the "wise sage" giving advice, but leaves it to younger Jedi to do the actual "field work." There, that was really quick and easy to explain, no need to automatically kill them off.

 

It's not just an "age" thing.....Hamill and Fisher may not want to do more SW films beyond 9, at which point your reasoning is moot.

 

Sorry.

 

I wasn't a big fan of Carrie's performance in TFA. And I think she's a really interesting person.

In some ways, the performance was better than I'd hoped, but still there were moments when it seemed the whole thing was on the verge of falling apart or too stiff.

Directors and writers take note of those things, and it is probably the real reason, if true, that Leia is in a coma for a large portion of the film.

It's a tricky situation because I'm sure they'd love to have Leia confront Kylo at some point. But the end result actually may not be desirable.

At the very least, I doubt Leia is ever given the focus that Han was. Or Luke will.

 

There's really no reason to kill off Leia. Maybe reduced screen time, but really why would she have to die or be killed? It would almost distract from the plot and give her character TOO MUCH importance at this point. Luke on the other hand...I don't think they will kill him off, but and this is a big but, if they really wanted to raise the stakes for the second half of 9 and show that it's all on the shoulder's of Rey to take down Kylo and Snoke, then they could kill off Luke. But again, I don't think they will.

 

Vergere was right at all

Seriously, i could see that happening.

 

This guy contradicts himself (see bold text below) so take it with a grain of salt, secondly, who (besides the cast) is able to actually see and read the script to know if Luke will not be revealed as Rey's father?

Mr_Ghostface_Lives said:

Carrie Fisher and Mark Hamill are back and more prominent, Ford is gone.​

Looks like Han is gone. Luke and Leia have larger parts in Episode VIII. Luke's actions at the end of the script will surprise some people.​

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I know, it's a very long time to go yet, but the script has been seen.​

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There are also a fair few new characters, so once you've seen TFA don't think the next movie will only revolve around the survivors.​

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December 16, 2015​

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Mr_Ghostface_Lives said:

Two facts from the script for Episode VIII...​

First of all, Luke is not Rey's father. If you really can't let go of this, watch Episode VII again and pay attention. He is not revealed to be her father in Episode VIII, not will he be in Episode IX.​

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The second, and more exciting one, is that Leia uses the Force in Episode VIII. It's unfortunately true that they've minimised her screen time by writing her out after an attack early on, but the really cool thing about the sequence is that Leia survives only because she uses the Force. That's all the detail you're getting, but it's a fact.​

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I appreciate the need for evidence, but come next year, you'll know it's correct.​

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June 8, 2016​

 

It's quite possible that there have been some changes between those reports.

 

hmm nothing here sounds like someone with actual sources. Just take the part 'Luke's actions at the end of the script will surprise some people'. We had before this statement 'Luke will save the day in the end, but in a bad way. He has changed'.
These are just a combination of old rumors that someone else leaked before. The Leia in coma leak was also before this guy brought it up.

 

Small changes yes, but not something huge like Leia being in coma and therefore not having any real screentime in VIII.

 

you remember there were bigger rewrites this year....hmmm, no idea.

 

Maybe.
The point is, they keep this whole mystery box around Rey's parentage closed, which means it's really important or it's just complete misdirection (as mentioned many times)

 

I suspect that the rewrites may have largely involved giving Poe more to do. I mean, Rey and Finn are the leads. I can't imagine they were short of screentime. But the guy originally slated to die in TFA who then turned out to be very popular? Yeah, I can see how they'd maybe shift focus from Leia (and Laura Dern's character) to focus more on Poe's rise to top of the resistance.

But that's pure guesswork.

I mean, as always, these are just 'sources', there's no 100% here. We won't really know for sure about anything until we're sat watching episode VIII in the cinema. But we have a loooong damn wait, so there's no harm in bringing any possible scraps to the table.

 

All I can say is that this guy was clearly reliable as having some kind of insider knowledge in the run up to TFA - I'd have to go way back to run through his reports but I remember that he and Plaid Harvest were definitely worth paying attention to. At some point, rumours will back up previous rumours - because some will be rumours from differing sources on the same details. What you then need to assess is how reliable the source of the rumour has been in the past. Also, it's worth remembering that 100% accuracy on ay of this stuff is highly unlikely. Broad strokes, sure. Exact context, not so much, going by past experience.

 

Loooooong damn wait for sure

 

Isn't it the same guy who said Finn was Lando's son?

 

He was the guy told that Finn was Lando's son

 

He also came up with info that checked out. Like I said, details may be off - and virtually every source was off when it came to identities and key beats - but he is, IMO, worth paying attention to, whilst obviously taking with a pinch of salt - as all these reports should be. But yes, factor in the inaccuracy of Finn as Lando's son as well.