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Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by SithStarSlayer, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Clone Commander Cassius

    Clone Commander Cassius Jedi Youngling star 1

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    what would have happened had Mace succeeded in killing Palpatine?

    well first off Anakin would most likely explode into a fit of inconsolable rage, thus Mace would have to then fight off Anakin. if he beats Anakin and kills him too, how would Mace explain being the only survivor of everything that just happened? and who would believe him?

    if Anakin kills Mace, how does Anakin explain being the only survivor of everything that just happened? and who would believe him?
    with Palpatine killed, who becomes ruler? does Mas Amedda become a regent of sorts until such time the Senate can elect a new ruler, or does Mas Amedda himself become the new Chancellor?

    in other words what happens if:
    A - Mace is the sole survivor of everything
    B - if Anakin is the sole survivor of everything
     
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  2. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    Well, Anakin would be in deeper trouble as he had just killed a revered Jedi Master. In the first scenario, Mace kills Anakin and all he has to do is say, "He lost his mind, he let his feelings cloud his judgement and he attacked me. I had no choice but to defend myself."
     
  3. Clone Commander Cassius

    Clone Commander Cassius Jedi Youngling star 1

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    true, it'd be easy for Mace to explain killing Anakin, and being a highly revered Jedi with a long history of service to the Republic, he would be easily believed - not to mention he'd actually be telling the truth. but how then does he describe the killing of Palpatine? what were he (Mace) and the others doing there in the first place? how does he explain that to the Senate?

    And also with Palpatine dead in this scenario, who takes over as ruler of the Republic? or do they wait until such time they can elect a new one? and if so who becomes Chancellor between that time?
     
  4. Sithblade11

    Sithblade11 Jedi Master star 1

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    Not seen this discussed but if you go on the JW Rinzler website and look on his blog. He is currently telling of his time of joining Lucasfilm. The latest one mentions his encounters with Rick McCallum.

    The blog will be updated until he left Lucasfilm in December 2015.

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  5. Jester J Binks

    Jester J Binks Jedi Master star 4

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  6. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Going into the catch-all random content thread.
     
  7. Tanjint

    Tanjint Jedi Knight star 2

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    Does anyone else just make the Clone Wars a decade-long period in their head canon?

    It has made my enjoyment easier to stop having to pretend that all of Anakin's life as Jedi between AOTC and ROTS was like 3 years, that Ahsoka's entire apprenticeship to him was like 3 years, that Anakin was in his earliest of 20s still when he became Vader....by just letting it be about a decade it's all the more satisfying: Anakin was indeed a full-on Jedi Knight for a substantial amount of time, Ahsoka's training was truncated but not the blink of an eye that 3 years is, the time during which the Wars themselves take place seems more realistic....just me??

    -T
     
  8. SharkFighter2.0

    SharkFighter2.0 Jedi Youngling

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    Why is c-3P0 not a Jedi master at the end of the film
     
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  9. Sithblade11

    Sithblade11 Jedi Master star 1

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    His blog yesterday got up to the ROTS filming and there were some negative stuff about Ewan, Natalie not enjoying it so much. The cast go along with Lucas's idea's with not the greatest of enthusiasm.

    One of the cast had to be threatened with legal action as they'd refused to do the photo scanning for the merchandise.

    But not long after it was up the whole blog has now been removed from his website!

    So far nothing has been said why it's suddenly gone.

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  10. Subtext Mining

    Subtext Mining Jedi Master star 4

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    I feel the relatively* short period is what helps make it all the more tragic. As well as Anakins youth - which lends credence to his rash decision making in a pinch. Here was this powerful young man with enormous potential, but it was all cut short too soon.

    Besides, bringing in The Clone Wars series, he (and Ahsoka) went on almost countless adventures. Dude had to have accomplished in 3 years what most Jedi before the war accomplished in 10. At least outwardly speaking. Forget Order 66, 10 years of doing what they were doing, they would've died from exhaustion.

    Also, would Palpatine really want to drag the war out for 10 years? And do you think Anakin or Padme would've or could've hid their marriage that long? Another part of the tragedy is that their duties during the war kept them apart a fair amount of the time. 3 years was already beginning to take its toll on thier marriage...

    *3 years in a war is quite a bit. Fwiw. Especially for a Padawan in their mid-teens.
     
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  11. Subtext Mining

    Subtext Mining Jedi Master star 4

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    Double post
     
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  12. Tanjint

    Tanjint Jedi Knight star 2

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    I think the best factoid in your argument's favor is Anakin's relative youth making his conversion seem more feasible....to me this is just somewhat undermined by his 5 seasons as a father figure to Ahsoka but I see what you're saying. Good point about the marriage too....sigh... haha

    also....awesome handle!

    -T
     
  13. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    If Shmi did not die would Anakin have still turned?
     
  14. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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    In attack of the Clones, Count Dooku says to Obi-Wan, "What if I told you the senate is now controlled by a Dark Lord of the Sith?" and then he asks Obi-Wan to join him to root that Sith Lord out.

    So if Obi-Wan joined Dooku, would Dooku tell Obi-Wan: It's the chancellor, he's the Sith Lord.

    Or was it some sort of plan by Sidious: Dooku, get Obi-Wan to trust you and get rid of my enemies? Tell him Mon Mothma is the Dark Lord?

    Or would Dooku betray Sidious, using the Jedi to destroy his Master and take over Sith Masterhood and take Obi-Wan as his Sith apprentice?
     
  15. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Moving to the central "what if?" thread for discussion.
     
  16. DARTHLINK

    DARTHLINK Force Ghost star 4

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    Possibly not, though I imagine Sidious would've found some other way to circumvent this if he really wanted Anakin for his apprentice.

    I imagine it would've played out just like Vader's vision with Luke -- join Dooku, learn the Dark Arts for a while while helping him secure the Separatists strength. Then, when ready, they would take on Palpatine.
     
  17. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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  18. 11-4D

    11-4D Force Ghost star 5

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    Anyone know which deleted scene this is from..?
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  19. Moon Labutto

    Moon Labutto Jedi Knight

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    Then why didn't his species use these abilities as a whole during the battle of Naboo?
     
  20. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony JCC Super Bowl Pick 'Em Winner star 7 VIP - Game Winner

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    I've been rethinking the PT in a fanfic kind of way, but I haven't written a story, it's more a rough outline. Is there a thread here called "Reimaging the PT"? I don't want to sound like a hater, but I know a lot of people aren't happy with certain parts of the PT, and I don't want to create a negative thread. I'm just looking for a thread where other like minded people could discuss how they would "rewrite" or "reimage" the PT if given the opportunity. Thanks!
     
  21. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    Has any reason been given for why Plo Koon still flies a Delta-7 Interceptor in ROTS instead of the Eta-2 ? Is it because he's been siegeing for a while, and hasn't had time to upgrade?
     
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  22. Darth Invictus

    Darth Invictus Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Maybe it's just his personal preference?
     
  23. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    Maybe they forgot? :p
     
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  24. ss640

    ss640 Jedi Knight star 1

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    Anyone know the history between Talzin/Dooku and Talzin/Sith (Other than Sidious betraying her and taking Maul ofc) bc in this scene Dooku says 'I believe the old alliance could be what it once was only you would have to pledge alliance to the seperatists' and Talzin saying 'long ago you helped me' to Dooku? I wonder if theres any canon material on that. Talzin was such a cool and interesting character, shame we never got to see her 1v1 someone other than Windu, which was only for like 10 seconds but still looked epic.
     
  25. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    There is no canon material of Talzin outside Dark Disciples and TCW.