ST The New Definitely Not Improved Even More Horrible Than The Last Two Rumors Thread

I think it's very likely that we get some prominent new villain characters. Phasma and Snoke are gone, and unless Kylo is going to be a merciless and unrepentant bad guy we need some new force of evil to be defeated/opposed. My bet would be on the Knights of Ren featuring, probably as actual characters rather than PG-type enemies to slice through. Rian implied that Kylo would have a personal attachment to the KOR (since they were the students who betrayed Skywalker alongside him), which paves the way for some fascinating character drama.

While I definitely think the cast will be less sprawling than in The Last Jedi, I'm reasonably confident that we can expect some casting news in the next few months. We've lost Luke, Holdo, Snoke and Phasma, and will also probably lose Leia before the action of IX starts. That leaves lots of room for new blood.

 

im curious to see how Kylo Ren will be handled if they go the "big baddie" road...he's one of my favourite characters but i dont see him as the "ultimate villain" of the ST. Could a greater threat appear in ep9? i think it might be too late for that. And Snoke's return as a spirit or evil energy seems unlikely IMO. So maybe if the story takes place a couple of years later we have Kylo Ren as a totally different character? More pure evil? I dont know. I'm very curious to see how it will play out.

I believe we'll see the KoR but im not sure they'll be talking roles. That would be cool of course butRJ was just speculating. Anyway i'm looking forward to seeing them as Ren and his force-sensitive dark team of renegades could be very very interesting indeed.

Though he's not a formidable threat himself, what if he plots against supreme leader Ren (!!!) and succeeds and takes over this hypothetical new enpire? We'd have Kylo and the Knights of Ren vs the Resistance vs The First Order empire. Would that be satisfying?

 

Kylo

Kylo is the big bad of ST just like Vader was of OT. But how it ends is the story.

 

Like I said, I don't think the "dark sider" idea is unnatural. Emotions themselves are not bad things - acting on the darker impulses is what make it bad, and that's what the Sith do that presumably people like Snoke and the Knights of Ren do not. Just look at Kylo in TLJ - he didn't seem like he actually wanted to be Supreme Leader or to run anything, he just wanted to be rid of what he perceived as the evilness of Snoke and Luke Skywalker.

 

Ya, that's where I think you can draw a distinct line between Sith and other dark side users. Sith wholly give in to the temptation to use the "dark side" emotions for darker impulses. However, just look at Asajj Ventress after Darth Tyranus betrayed her - she was still a dark side user, but she was not evil. In fact, she even teamed up with Ahsoka despite being powered by her emotions - she sure as heck never lost that sadness and anger after her people were massacred by Grievous, but she channeled those negative emotions in a good way - that's what I think the Force's intended use of the dark side is.

I hope Episode IX continues drawing this distinction between Sith and dark side users.

 

Phasma is not dead, she will be back in IX.

 

It's always a possibility. But why?

We already know her origin.

At this point, the only characters she has any effect on, would be Finn and Hux.

And that's only as an adversary and as an asset.

Finn just defeated her and Hux has bigger things to worry about now.

She'd just be one more bad guy that has to be killed before the end of IX.

 

Yes she will be a villian for finn. Finn didnt defeat her she fell, but he will in IX. Plus we need more villians as Rey will deal with kylo what are finn and poe gonna do?

 

KoR

 

Not sure I agree with that... he seems pretty determined to be evil himself. But I am interested in some possible exploration of the Dark in balance.

 

Phasma could have had an actual conversation with Finn, but their TLJ battle was really pointless. Her beef with him apparently comes down to, "You were always scum." This isn't compelling. It's boring. It's like two movies in a row of Finn vs. Phasma is more than enough.

I would find Finn vs. Hux way more interesting. Hux slapped him across the face for being a traitor. That's RICH. *fantasizes about Finn tying Hux to a chair and explaining how things really are, and then pulling his FO file and finding out where he came from*

 

KOR will be for kylo and rey. Rian created snoke's guards for their fight bcoz JJ will use KOR vs kylo and rey with lightsabers.

 

One thing to consider is that if Episode IX takes place several years after TLJ (As I'm convinced it will), it's possible that Kylo Ren will have had all that time to regather the Knights of Ren for some purpose, and also he will have had time to become more angry and bitter, as well as more powerful himself. Who knows what he could become in 5-7 years?

 

Episode IX: 96 hours

 

I laugh when people suggest that Phasma is dead. No fiery chasm can stop the invincible, the eternal the constant of the universe!

 

Han Solo's funeral will be addressed in the novelization (which will be released March 6th) according to the Star Wars Show. There will also be Rose and Paige interaction, deeper Canto Bight action and much more according to Rian. (I fully expect the novelization to explain scenes in a lot more depth)

 

That's all good and great, but you know-I really would like to have seen some of that in the actual film too. I know, I know-it's already 2 1/2 hours, but IMO there are certain subplots (much involving Rose actually) which could've been left out.

Besides-I wouldn't mind a 2 hr. 45 min. SW film-would anyone else?

 

Please don’t give them any more ideas . They can do worse buy them selves.

 

In the spirit of this board I'll give you guys a real spoiler for the next one. Totally confirmed.

Rey is actually Leia's daughter. Given up to someone trusted by leia after it came out that she was darth vaders daughter. This person betrayed Leia by selling rey on Jakku.

Leia will deliver the line "Rey i am your mother" right before sacrificing her life by saving rey in a confrontation with Kylo ren. Rey screams "Nooooooooooooooo" as she gets pulled away by Rose and Finn.

Han and Luke were unaware of leia's pregnancy as han left right right after conception and Luke was out building his Jedi academy/recruiting new padawans to his order.

 

@Nadroj ilain Leia was found out to be Vaders daughter 6 years ago.

Rey was already living on Jakku as a 13 year old then.

She's lived on Jakku at least since she was 5.

Edit: I just realized you were being facetious

 

Nonono they're going to Retcon the Vader descendants reveal and say it happened much earlier.

Just like Finn piloted a ship in TLJ after TFA told us he didnt know how to.

Lol i figured most posts on here were facetious

 

Alright, alright now..........

 

when will filming begin?

 

i believe it's supposed to be in June.