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Challenge The Celtic Song Challenge|All New Songs Now Claimed

Discussion in 'Fan Fiction and Writing Resource' started by Pandora, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. DARTH_MU

    DARTH_MU Jedi Master star 4

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  2. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    All right, the index list in post #2 should now be up to date with everyone's stories. What an incredible bumper crop this challenge has yielded! I need to get up to date on reviewing these; it may take me a bit, but I fully intend to.

    One quick question for AzureAngel2: do I have everything of yours accurately listed in the index? Just wanting to make sure, since I know some of the individual stories in your series exist in multiple threads/versions, etc., and so everything can be listed correctly. Thanks! :)
     
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  3. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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    Just 14. & 15. were mine. Thanks for asking!
     
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  4. earlybird-obi-wan

    earlybird-obi-wan Chosen One star 6

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    Please can I have one of the two remaining songs?
     
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  5. Pandora

    Pandora Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    earlybird-obi-wan: Please can I have one of the two remaining songs?

    You certainly may!

    I have done a coin toss--and of the last two songs, you have received "The Wearing of the Green." This is a rebel song, a street ballad of the 1798 Irish Rebellion, when green was the colour of the United Irishmen; and apparently, it was a hanging offense (admittedly, this was in the time when one could hang for stealing a silk scarf) to wear the rebellious shamrock in one's hat.

    There are many versions of the lyrics. Here are a few.

    And a few videos:

    John McCormack:


    Wolfe Tones:


     
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  6. earlybird-obi-wan

    earlybird-obi-wan Chosen One star 6

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    A perfect song for the Corellian Jedi
     
  7. Mira_Jade

    Mira_Jade The (FavoriteTM) Fanfic Mod With the Cape star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Oooh there's one song left . . . would you mind if I snatched it up? I had so much fun with my last entry, I'm ready to let the muse go again!

    The Foggy Dew, it looks like is unclaimed? :D
     
  8. Pandora

    Pandora Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mira_Jade: Oooh there's one song left . . . would you mind if I snatched it up? I had so much fun with my last entry, I'm ready to let the muse go again!

    I would not mind at all!

    You have claimed "The Foggy Dew." This is also a song of rebellion--this time, of the 1916 Easter Rising. (The same rebellion W.B. Yeats wrote of in his poem "Easter, 1916," and you will probably recognize his famous lines. "All changed, changed utterly:/A terrible beauty is born.")

    Lyrics

    Videos:

    Sinéad O'Connor and The Chieftains:


    Wolfe Tones:
     
  9. AzureAngel2

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  11. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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  12. earlybird-obi-wan

    earlybird-obi-wan Chosen One star 6

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  13. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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  14. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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    I wrapped up both Celtic challenges now, each containing 9 vignettes. One thread is for Orson Krennic and the other one for Sheev Palpatine.
     
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  15. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    It's been a while, hasn't it? :p I am posting partly to check on how folks are doing on this one, and partly to return my second prompt (no. 24, "The Cruel Brother") to the pot—it's just turning out not to be my thing thematically. So that one is now available again, for anyone who would like to claim it.
     
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  16. Raissa Baiard

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    Regretfully, I think I’m going to return my song, too. As much as I love it, I just can’t find a good way to bring it into the GFFA. :(
     
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  17. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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    Hum, I could try, @Raissa Baiard, with "The Cruel Sister / The Bonnie Swans". How much time do I have and, most important, am I really allowed to do a third one?
     
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  18. Pandora

    Pandora Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    @AzureAngel2: Hum, I could try, @Raissa Baiard, with "The Cruel Sister / The Bonnie Swans". How much time do I have and, most important, am I really allowed to do a third one?

    As stated in the rules section, there is a limit of two songs per person--and for now, I don't see a need to change it. If one of the newly released songs is still available in, say, a month's time, we can revisit the issue then. Mainly, I just want to give new people a crack at being part of the challenge.

    Of course, if you still want to try writing a story for that song, we do have an ad-hoc section where it would be most welcome.

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    That written: I haven't been able to come up with a story for my own song, "Black is the Colour," so I am going to relinquish it and try my luck with one of the others. And the coin toss I just did gives me "The Cruel Sister" as my new song.

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    @Findswoman: Yes, it has indeed been a while. It always pleases me to see this thread sitting in the light of the first page--and especially now, as we approach the haunted late autumn. That's actually my favorite time to listen to Celtic music. So--provided that I either finish, or successfully ignore, stories I have already in progress--I might be finally providing a story for this challenge in the near future.
     
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  19. AzureAngel2

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    See, @Pandora, this is why I asked. I knew there was a reason I could not do it. But I could not remember what it was. Now I keep my fingers crossed for finding somebody! :D
     
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  20. Findswoman

    Findswoman Fanfic and Pancakes and Waffles Mod (in Pink) star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    @AzureAngel2, you absolutely still can write a story based on that particular song if it inspires you. As @Pandora said:

    If you look at the very bottom of the index post, you'll see a section labeled "Unofficial/Ad-Hoc Challenge Entries"—that's where it would be listed, and it would be in good company. :)
     
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  21. AzureAngel2

    AzureAngel2 Chosen One star 6

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    I will consider that, thanks!
     
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  22. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Come on. Throw me one.
    Let's see if I can do a short one-sitting bit.
     
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  23. Pandora

    Pandora Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    @GregMcP: I have done the ritual coin toss, and you have received The Cruel Brother.

    Wherein a girl's suitor asks permission to marry her from nearly every member of her family, save one--her brother John! But not her brother John! This turns out to be a serious mistake.
     
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  24. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    Good and violent.

    A central struggle with this is "why?"
    John! Dude! Why'd you kill your sis? What the hell is wrong with you? A passive aggressive wedding speech would have been sufficient.

    It was a similar problem with Dido and Aeneas, where Dido orders her lover to leave and then dies of misery because he does.

    WHERE'S YOUR COMMON SENSE PEOPLE?
     
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  25. Pandora

    Pandora Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Common sense? This is ballad-land we're in now: where healthy young people die with great speed of broken hearts, and where that fatal heartbreak can be catching. Your "earth logic" has no place here.

    But more seriously, there was a quote I read years ago on the internet--I think it was on fantasy author Marie Brennan's livejournal, but don't quote me--that was referring to folktales, but can be applied to the folk ballads as well: that, basically, you can tell that a story/song originated in the folk tradition, rather than that of the literary fairy tale, because there will be so many aspects about it that just don't make any sense.

    Also like the folktales, the characters in ballads tend to be archetypes (the beauteous youngest daughter, for example, is seen everywhere in both), rather than what we would see today, after the psychological realism of the 19th-20th centuries, as fully developed characters. Along with that, as you noted, there is oftentimes no explanation for what motivates these characters to make the terrible choices they do. Of course, the ambiguity of these factors is the very thing that makes them so open for various retellings and interpretations.

    So no: I haven't any idea just what is wrong with Brother John. But I did read somewhere online that apparently, there are a multitude of songs across different European cultures--including an absurd number of Swedish ones--in which a woman's failure to obtain her brother's permission to marry is the gravest of insults, and a fatal one at that. So I'm thinking there may well be something there--a subtext earlier audiences knew without having to be explicitly told--that we just no longer have the cultural context to see.

    And thus ends my lecture for today.
     
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