ST Episode IX Story Discussion

There are no rumors or confirmations of Skellig Michael filming for 9, right?

I haven't seen anything to that effect, so it's not that likely that we will see a return to Ahch-To. Unless they have enough plate shots and aerials from the other two movies and just need any green hill or cliff to stand in for the jedi island...Or they just need the tree/cave set and nothing on the actual island. Could be a short sequence.

 

I could see Rey returning to Ahch-To accompanying Kylo to his exile.

 

Disney would never put in something from the PT in the ST unless it's Darth Maul Reincarnated again.

Also, I really do think the Rey lineage thing is done. They've said over and over Kylo Ren was telling her the truth about her parents. They really were nobody drunkards who left her on Jakku.

 

Western Michigan University?

 

This is exactly what RJ said:

"So, can I just make the statement, that’s who her parents are? They came from nothing, they’re buried in the desert, is that for sure?

RIAN JOHNSON: That’s what Kylo sees and that’s what he tells her and I think he’s not lying in that moment. That’s what he saw and she seems to believe it when she hears it. I don’t want to … I’m not writing the next film, we’ll see how they handle it going forward, and as we all know in these movies, there’s always a certain point of view that’s involved. But, for me, I’ll tell you that was the … I can understand why that answer doesn’t feel good. It’s not supposed to feel good. It’s supposed to be the hardest thing she could possibly hear in that moment."

Rey is the first one to say that her parents were "nobody', for Kylo pushed her into saying it herself... Kylo only nailed the coffin when he said they sold her off for drinking money. It coincided with what Maz told Rey in TFA: "Whomever you are waiting for on Jakku, they're never coming back".

Lol, makes me think that if Kylo told the truth, he would be the only male character who hasn't lied to her yet (excluding Poe, but she spent 2 sec with him): Finn lied when he claimed to be a Resistant, Han didn't mention that the student who had burnt Luke's Temple was his own son so it was a sort of lie too, and Luke lied when he claimed that he "confronted" Ben. As far as we know, everything that Kylo said happens to be true.

 

I definitely think Kylo is lying his pants off, and I REALLY REALLY hope he was. I REALLY REALLY hope Rey is a Kenobi.

But my friend insisted it's a done deal - Rey's parents are Nobody Drunkards. The quote my friend showed me was pretty convincing, little room for interpretation, so it must not've been that quote.

BTW, are there really any Episode IX Story Spoilers other than there's a time jump?

 

If Rey is not a nobody, the most plausible scenario would be that Kylo was not lying (or so were Rey and Maz? duh?), but that he genuinely said out loud what he saw in Rey's mind: Rey had souvenirs of being abandoned, and that's what Kylo saw. Hence the "certain point of view" mentioned by RJ.

 

I'm not sure. I'd have to dig the quote up. Interviews change. Scripts get rewritten.

Oh! I think the quote was one in reference to 'anyone can be a Jedi who wants to be a Jedi' and how a 'nobody like Rey' fulfills that. I could be wrong tho, so please please please understand. I'm not an expert on the ST.

 

There are some old rumors/theories that RJ shot some footage there that was meant to be held for Ep. IX but I think that’s been debunked by now.

 

Even if it was true, that was when Colin Trevorrow was writing/directing and before Carrie passed away. The story, or at least the way they're going to tell it, has likely changed a lot since then.

 

Here's something to consider - how could Kylo have intimate knowledge of Rey's past? Either he's lying to her and/or he played a role in her being abandoned.

 

Or he saw it while looking through her mind in TFA.

 

With the supposed title of episode IX being 'Balance of the Force' and people on social media talking about a new villain emerging in the film code named PRIME

It got me thinking about what we know

PRIME could refer to the PRIME JEDI who we were made aware of in the Last Jedi encyclopedia



The Prime Jedi image appears in the form of a tiled Yin and Yang style piece of art in the temple on Ach To



Yin and Yang, Rey and Ren, Light and Dark



The Prime Jedi would be the Balance of the Force, which lets face it doesn't have to be a good thing.



A balanced force might be a bad thing. It might mean some hard decision need to be made. Think Thanos style

 

Does this warrant its own thread? It's vague speculation.

 

Oh wow heard about the balance of force possible title but not about “ prime “ so what are other sites saying about him/her/it?

Wait a minute just re-read through your post so rey and kylo could both be the villain of episode 9 ? That certainly would be interesting. Reminds me of the bendus speech to kanan in Rebels season 3 where he said light and dark were united once before and if united could bring a clarity of vision but he also made it sound like if this happened it would signify doom . Your idea regarding Thanos certainly plays into this .

 

Where is this Prime rumour originating from? Not reddit, please?

 

If you post that Balance of the Force image 43 more times I'm sure it will start to catch on.

 

Apparently you can also hear the voice of a dead person.

 

Or when they Skype forced, simply? Just like she read his mind and saw there was still good in him.

 

Seriously, where is this “prime villain” thing coming from? Can’t find anything about it online.

 

Yeah it was Reddit though the post has now been removed so you can’t check out what was said. ( I don’t know either ).

I find it interesting how with every movie in the sequel trilogy there is always this hyped rumour ie there is another villain - with TFA people thought it was Luke , with TLJ people thought it was luke and now there’s talk of “prime the villain for 9” who is code name for what could possibly be the prime Jedi( according to here ) - who wait for it - could still be luke even from beyond the grave . Lol! I doubt it but if this happens mark Hamill would have got his wish ( he always wanted this like Harrison Ford wanted to be killed off ) and snoke would have been a red herring all along . Luke is kind of like the bendu by the time of the TLJ - “ the one in the middle “ and certainly teaches this balance like in the middle philosophy to Rey so that would be a nice plot twist . Moreover has anyone read the comic version of TLJ? It presents Luke almost like a master magician with tricks up his sleeve . Not what he seems .
Anyway it’s probably all BS and there is no other villain in episode 9. Maybe the red herring is kylo Ren - most of us want to believe he will eventually get redemption but maybe it’s because we can’t come to terms with the fact that HE is the villain( because he’s Han and Leia’s son)of the sequel trilogy .

 

If JJ were to put a "new" villain (or just head of KOR) then it's his way of making up for the fact that he no longer has Snoke to work with. But it can be woven nicely into the story by using Snoke's death as a way to jump start this new baddie.

 

If it is in her mind, then why is she pretending she doesn't know the answer?

 

He could be exaggerating, which is a form of lying. I am kind of expecting her parentage to go the “from a certain POV” route in this way. Lies are more powerful when they contain a kernel of truth.