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Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralWesJanson, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Of course it is. Harbinger shows us that if one is destroyed they just re-use the name.

    And Pride of Tarlandia and Emperor's Wisdom show us that they don't all have to follow the 'one menacing word' naming convention.
     
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  2. Nom von Anor

    Nom von Anor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    But what about Lambda-class(and other) shuttles? There must be millions of them flying about. Do they all have names? No one on the Executor seemed to find it out of place that the approaching shuttle had a name(Tydirium). We also saw many Lambdas with names throughout the old EU.

    EDIT: There were also many other capital ships, large and small, in the Imperial Navy.
     
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  3. TheAdmiral

    TheAdmiral Chosen One star 4

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    They must have used a random name generator.
     
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  4. Pons

    Pons Jedi Knight star 2

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    Amid all the menacing names there's bound to be a couple outlandish ones, especially when it comes to a navy that size. The RN was home to the likes of Dreadnought, Iron Duke, Warspite, Valiant, Royal Sovereign, Indefatigable and Revenge... and then there were Cockchafer, Pansy and Spanker.
     
  5. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    You think that is bad, imagine naming the millions of inhabited planets.
     
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  6. JABoomer

    JABoomer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Imperial ships (including shuttles) could be named for Imperial controlled planets, moons, and space phenomena. Therefore I don't think they would run out.
     
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  7. boomx2sjk

    boomx2sjk Jedi Master star 2

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    Maybe it is because it is Friday afternoon, but that's the funniest thing I've seen/read all week.
     
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  8. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    It's a kind of bug:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockchafer
     
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  9. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Don't forget Heroes of The Empire. There may well be an ISD out there named the Romodi.
     
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  10. BriantheWizard

    BriantheWizard Jedi Padawan

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    With the release of the new Starhawk, I can't help but notice something interesting about it and some other ships. This isn't really a complaint or a problem, more of an observation that I have.
    There seems to be a common occurrence with multiple ships in the SW universe, specifically the Nebulon-B, Nebulon-C, Rebel Assault Frigates, and now the Starhawk. All of these ships have that weird "front hatchet" bit that goes downwards with all of those cylindrical bits like the bridge on a Nebulon-B, or extra engines on the Starhawk. I've always wondered why are they put in that front hatchet (I don't know if there is a specific term for it) part of the ship, and not have such a massive target right in the front of the ship? Is there an in-universe explanation or is it just a design choice?
     
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  11. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah. Ryder Windham, Chris Reiff, and Chris Trevas are behind it. Syfy.com has a first look:

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    Are you a newly recruited pilot for the Rebel Alliance? Is your X-Wing making a funny ticking noise you just can't figure out?

    Fret not, dear galactic freedom fighter — Insight Editions has your back with yet another Star Wars Owners' Workshop Manual (out in November). This time, Ryder Windham, Chris Reiff, and Chris Trevas are tackling the subject of Rebel Starfighters, and we've got an exclusive first look at the book's front cover, which you can check out below.

    "As a huge Star Wars fan it’s an amazing opportunity to delve into the saga’s most iconic ships," the book's editor, Chris Prince, tells SYFY WIRE. "Starfighters, like the X-Wing, have become an intrinsic part of our pop culture, but outside of their appearances in the movies, so much has been written about them in comics, novels, and other publications over the years. The Haynes Owners’ Workshop Manual books really bring all this fascinating lore together to create a really dynamic experience for the reader with in-depth specs, exploded diagrams, the complete history of each ship, and tons of cool factoids. If you’re a fan of Star Wars tech and really want to know how an alluvial damper works or how s-foils are locked in position, then these books have it all."

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    Credit: Insight Editions/Lucasfilm

    "The really cool thing about Rebel Starfighters is that it not only covers the X-Wing, but all the starfighters in the fleets of both the Rebel Alliance and the Resistance," Prince adds. "It also delves into each craft’s origins and as many had precursors in the Clone Wars era, you really get a sense of how these ships developed over the course of the entire saga. For example, the A-Wing is based on the Delta-7 Aethersprite-class light inceptor that Obi-Wan Kenobi flies in [Episode II] Attack of the Clones. It’s really fun to discover and explore these kinds of connections."

    The book also presents fans with a chance to scope out some of the lesser-known Rebel and Resistance ships like the A-Wing, B-Wing, and X-Wing.

    "We only ever got a brief glimpse of them when they debuted in [Episode VI] Return of the Jedi and over the years, they’ve made a few appearances in other sources like the comics and the Star Wars Rebels show," notes Prince, "but here we really got the chance to get into the nitty gritty of how they work, including the gyro-stabilization system that allows the craft to rotate while the cockpit stays in the same place. It’s these kinds of details that really make these books special and a great resource for fans."

    You can find the official description of the book below:

    The Rebel Starfighters Owners’ Workshop Manual presents a thorough history of the starfighters that served the Rebel Alliance and the Resistance. The history includes design origins, production, and modifications for each Rebel starfighter, and is fully illustrated with numerous photographs, schematics, exploded diagrams, and computer-generated artwork by Star Wars vehicle experts Chris Reiff and Chris Trevas. Text is by Ryder Windham, author and co-author of more than 70 Star Wars books. This Haynes Manual is the most thorough technical guide to Rebel starfighters available, and is fully authorized and approved by Lucasfilm.

    "What I also love is the way that these books are exposed to so many levels of Star Wars expertise," Prince says. "The editorial team at Lucasfilm has a depth of knowledge that’s just staggering and they are always on hand to fact-check and make great suggestions so that the final book is just brimming with little-known facts and other treasures. And we’re always thinking about what’s coming next in the series, so planning which Star Wars vehicles we want to focus on in the future is always a lot of fun."

    Star Wars: Rebel Starfighters Owners' Workshop Manual goes on sale on Nov. 12. You can pre-order a copy on Amazon here for $24.99 a pop. For more info on the workshop manuals featuring the Millennium Falcon and Imperial TIE Fighters, click here, here, and here.
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  12. Long Snoot

    Long Snoot Jedi Master star 2

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    One thing I really appreciate about the TIE manual is that it gives "historical context" to the fighters, explaining how and why each model was developed for the navy before getting into the technical details. I look forward to read trivia of this kind in the rebel one, such as when the X-Wings were obtained in canon and how, or what exactly was upgraded in the A-Wings from Rebels to ROTJ. Also..
    ..we might be getting a little teaser of the Y-Wings' (basically confirmed) appearence in IX
     
  13. Chris0013

    Chris0013 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Is this the large or small variant?? I am terrible with scaling against the silhouette of the landing ships and Twilight....
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  14. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    It looks a lot bigger even than the Large Variant.

    I measured, and even if you use the smallest version of the Landing ship, and you don't count the tail vanes at all, it's still a little oversized.

    The 149.28m figure given in Incredible Vehicles, when used for the landing craft, produces a 2687m Recusant.

    (8mm wide image when measured, Recusant 144mm long not counting tail vanes.)

    The actual figure is 2544m according Wookieepedia.
     
  15. Wrinty

    Wrinty Jedi Master star 3

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    So, how many ISDs and other smaller craft do you think the FO has all together? Can't be anything approaching 25,000 ISDs... maybe 10,000 at most.
     
  16. VitorPraza

    VitorPraza Jedi Knight star 1

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    i think several thousand combined
     
  17. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Good point - there are a lot of names to draw from.

    Though, interestingly, I can't think of any examples of Star Wars ships named after Star Wars places off the top of my head.

    My favorite factiod I heard about them was that they were banished by the royal court to a small reserve in the 1300s. The beetles did not comply.

    (And yeah, the name is still weird - they aren't parasites or bother chickens in any way....)

    Also a good source for names.

    (And speaking of names - I think one of my favorite gags in all of star wars is the holonet news list of most popular baby names, starting the list with a combination of shrieking and mandible clicking.)
     
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  18. Snafu55

    Snafu55 Jedi Master star 3

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    Several Hundred... They don't have much of an enemy force to counter.
     
  19. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So Matt Martin weighed in on this: "It's meant to be a standard First Order Star Destroyer."

     
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  20. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What does that mean? Is it just an oddly drawn Resurgent, then?
     
  21. Havoc123

    Havoc123 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Looks like the Rebels Interdictor, but without gravity wells.
     
  22. Wrinty

    Wrinty Jedi Master star 3

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    Yes... seems like a diplomatic way of saying the artist(s) made a mistake.
     
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  23. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Now that the Starhawk-class is finally getting an actual image, I wonder if we'll see the light of the Alderaanian escort frigate Sunspire from "Aftermath", the Sullustan ring-ship from "Aftermath: Life Debt" and the Corellian assault frigate Redeemer from "Aftermath: Empire's End".

    Then again, my current headcanon image has the Sunspire as a Nebulon-B while the Redeemer is an Assault Frigate Mark I from the "Thrawn Trilogy" comics and not the actual Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser modifications.
     
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  24. JediBatman

    JediBatman Jedi Master star 4

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    Could be, but when Poe saw a Resurgent wasn't he surprised the FO had such large ships? Maybe this ship is the type of Star Destroyer the FO has for it's "public face" fleet?
     
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  25. Wrinty

    Wrinty Jedi Master star 3

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    That sounds reasonable, but they could have just used old ISDs for that purpose.
     
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