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The Mandalorian Imperial Remnants & the First Order

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by Jedi Knight Fett, Nov 22, 2019.

  1. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    That’s my guess as well that he likely retried you get the remaining death troopers under his control.
     
  2. Darth_Accipiter

    Darth_Accipiter Force Ghost star 5

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    It'd be cool if Gideon had some Imperial droids among his resources. Droids seem like the perfect alternative to ex Stormtroopers for muscle. I'm hoping for some Enforcer and Sentry Droids, maybe some Dark Troopers.

    One of these guys in Live Action would be neat

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  3. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    I’m hoping for a K-2 model or two. Perhaps the best droid designs in Star Wars, next to the IG series.
     
  4. Lobey-One Kenobi

    Lobey-One Kenobi Jedi Master star 3

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    I'd like to see some in-fighting between the remnants during Season 2, and more focus on the structure of these actual remnants.
     
  5. Seerow

    Seerow Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Seeing how the Imperial remnants are broken up I think different groups trying to do their own thing is inevitable because that's to easy of a way to get on-demand antagonists to run into. The show is already using this formula. The last two episodes make it pretty clear infighting is going on in my opinion. I think getting caught in the middle of groups of imperials remnant literally trying to conquer one another could be pretty cool.
     
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  6. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Agreed. Ever since RotJ came out, I've thought that the Rebel Alliance's final victory would hinge on the surviving factions of Imperials turning against each other. I've always envisioned that era as a time of political maneuvering, scheming, and black ops/false flag missions to get the bad guys to wipe themselves out.
     
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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Well, we saw that in Chapter 7 of season one. And then heard troopers talk about it in Chapter 8. And it was great. I’d like more of it as well.
     
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  8. Macromind101

    Macromind101 Jedi Knight

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    Why aren't Moff Gideon and his faction with the other Imperials like Sloane and Brendol Hux, who are hiding out in the Unknown Regions at the time? Did they not get the memo, did they disagree with the plan to rebuild, or..?
     
  9. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Because the galaxy is massive and complicated.
     
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  10. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    Because Moff Gideon is on special assignment to retrieve the Child for unknown reasons. Most likely because the Hidden Leader of the First Order has a great interest in Force-sensitive strandcasfs. Gideon has been assigned the mission of retrieving it.

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  11. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Final Order and Sith Eternal are kinda similar to the Dark Empire/Empire Reborn movement. While the First Order is kinda similar to the so-called Crimson Empire which in the EU was created out've the Dark Empire after the fall of the Clone Palpatine and Dark Side Elite with Kylo kinda being similar to Carnor Jax.

    I still think Gideon is some sorta Inquisitor type and likely a Sith Loyalist so belongs more the the Final Order than the Imperial remnant that forms into the First Order(which actually still belongs to Palpatine anyway). The movies are weird.
     
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  12. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    Or he simply wasn't part of the group that was recalled to the UR and became the FO. We know that the Battle of Jakku was meant to "cleanse" the remaining Imperial forces of weak elements, perhaps Gideon was one of those. And now he's just another warlord trying to make a living.
     
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  13. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    A living that involves expending great resources to capture a Force-Sensitive child? One whose power deems to be very strong?

    I think not.

    In light of TROS, it's clear why Gideon wants the Child and who he truly serves, even though he may not know it.

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  14. MrDarth0

    MrDarth0 Jedi Master star 4

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    Maybe he just wants the Child for himself, to somehow extract the Force sensitivity to himself. We know he has a lightsaber, perhaps he dreams of being the next Emperor.

    There were plenty of crazy power hungry Imperial remnant warlords in the old EU with similar schemes.
     
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  15. Sarge

    Sarge Chosen One star 10

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    Just a simple warlord, trying to make his way in the galaxy.
     
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  16. Jolee Bindo

    Jolee Bindo Jedi Master star 3

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    I think it'd be more interesting to me if Gideon was "just" an independent warlord - it would add a bit of texture and complexity to the universe, which has been somewhat lacking in mainstream Star Wars titles - but I think it's far more likely that there'll be a familiar dark power behind him. The "shared universe" formula that Star Wars seems to be running on these days more or less demands it.
     
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  17. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Agreed 100%. I don’t want the Mandalorian to get roped into the cartoonish Emperor plot from TROS. He’s a warlord that’s scarily ambitious and wants to somehow try to extract, for himself, some of the power he knows resides in Jedi and the Emperor. And so he’s trying out some desperate genetic solution. If he’s just working for the Sith Eternal, trying to resurrect Palpatine for some reason (I mean, why do that instead of trying to seize power himself?) it becomes a cartoonish galaxy where the bad guys are all just weird cult figures, rather than humans with realistic political and military ambitions.
     
  18. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    Palpatine is already resurrected though. As he never died he just transferred his essence to a damaged weak clone body. I think he can still be his own person with his ideas and ambitions. But he's still indirect in contact with either Sith Eternal or the First Order. It be fun if he's independant, but i think it's more likley that him and other warlords has indirect contact with a higher power.
     
  19. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Yes, but clearly Palpatine is too weak at this stage. While he might have some contacts, I’d prefer that he’s someone taking advantage of the collapse of the old power to seize power himself, rather than still serving it.
     
  20. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    since this is just a few years after ROTJ i think he's mostly in control and is in contact with them but he's in control. But i aslo think he sees the rise of a empire of order and safety like the empire was.
     
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  21. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I imagine we'll see some Snoke around but not Palpatine.
     
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  22. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    The last thing this show needs is Snoke’s dumb mug.
     
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  23. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    most likley we will have high ranking first order or sith eternal officer that Gideon reports to.
     
  24. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Or neither of those (unless he’s actively deceiving them). Independent warlord is far more interesting.
     
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  25. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well Palpatine being too weak, has little to do with anything. He had Snoke around plus other agents of the Sith Eternal and Dark Side adepts. Moreover even a "too weak" Palpatine easily overwhelmed and defeated Kylo and Rey with just Force pull/throw technique , lol. The Sith Eternal is clearly very much active, even if shadowy within the Operation Cinder contingency and Sentinel Droids.Oddly enough Imperial Governor Moff Adelhard was right, the Emperor was alive. One has to wonder if he was connected to the Sith Eternal...