Lit Fleet Junkie Flagship- The technical discussions of the GFFA (Capital Ships thread Mk. II)

I guess the Nebulon BF is an "Hynestian Star Cruiser".

 

So the YT-2400BT is this:




OH I love corellian mods... Imagine a YT-1300 or the Falcon with such Battlepods on either side of its docking tubes... or attache Hammerhead double gunnery pods from Rogue One to a CR90 Corvette... Yikes Shipjunkiegasm!

 

There was a Star Tours Starspeeder in TFA all this time? Okay, then!

 

I assume the NR replaced the huge, expensive MC85 with heavily modified and renamed MC80s to save costs. That, or the MC95 is a brand new ship that just happens to resemble the MC80.

And it's nice that they left room for the MC90 by jumping straight from 85 to 95.

 

Surprised that the designations for several ships:

Hynestian Star Cruiser
Lothalian Corvette
Ralltiiri Light Freighter

So Lando's story about the royal family of Hynestia may hint why those ships came.
Lothalian Corvette might've come with the Ghost, which means the Lothal sector has a small but easy fleet (I dub it the "Bridger's Beacon" and Jai Kell commands the ship -- Hera and Jacen are on the Ghost and Ezra and Sabine are on a repainted and renamed Nightbrother).
And Ralltiir, aside from being Pharl McQuarrie, Jeroen Webb and Derek "Hobbie" Klivian's homeworld, and being close to Chandrila, it's nice to see it getting some love.

 

What exactly is the Victor Wing? Is it TROS exclusive or is there another source for it? I'd love to see other views of it.

 

TROS original yes and we got another shot of it but I cannot find it right now. It was not in the io9 clip nor the A Final Alliance target exclusive vid showing participants of the fleet shot. I think I saw it on some artists artstation or insta.

It kinda looked like Snokes Megadestroyer but starfighter to freighter sized... like a wide open V, akin to open U-Wing wings.

 

Nice, I'll have to try to track down that closer look, then. It kind of reminds me of the V-Wing airspeeder from DE/Rogue Squadron.

 

The lost fleet of MC90s, with hangars filled with T75 and T80 X-Wings and B-Wings MK IIs.
I'm not a fan of the new designation since I was hoping we'd finally gotten to see a fleet of unique MC80s like they're meant to be, but instead they are a whole new class of ship that didn't exist during the civil war. I also find it weird that the MC75 variant is just an MC75E rather than, say, an MC90. Maybe this one is older?

 

It appeared briefly in Vader Immortal.

 

I think that Kylo's ship is actually called the TIE whisperer

 

He refers to the imperial TIE that Kylo takes from the DSII ruins to travel to Exegol, which was retconned into a separate model to justify the hyperdrive.

 

I meant the second time. The TIE he takes from the DS2.

 

Yeah that's also pointed out in the video above.

 

Regarding the missing MC90... Quite a few clues suggest the NRDF used another MC cruiser class apart from the MC85. The TLJ VD states that the MC85 was replaced by a "less crew-intensive design."



The Home Fleet's composition implies a large cap ship force dominated by MC cruisers, making it unlikely that said "less crew-intensive design" was a non-MC ship. With these in mind, it's possible that the "less crew-intensive design" is referring to the MC90. And although most of the Home Fleet cruisers are MC80s, two are of an unknown class; those could very well be MC90s.



But why not MC95s? The Star Wars Kids vid lists the Hosnian cruisers as "New Republic Cruisers," not MC95s, indicating that they're of a different class.

TL;DR: MC90s replaced MC85s in NRDF service, and two such ships may have been part of the Home Fleet circa 34 ABY.

 

Still, thinking about how the Resistance often uses the older models of New Republic designs yet are able to fight the FO more or less equally (barring the numbers advantage) makes you wonder how well the FO would have fared against the NR central fleet if it hadn't been taken out by Starkiller.

Or maybe not. After all, Vonreg was able to take out new model x-wings easily enough, yet gets killed by one of those same pilots in a beat up civilian racer/fighter later, so the tech advantage apparently isn't that overwhelming.

 

RE: MC95 type

I fully agree that the MC95's were cruiser designed post-Concordance to provide the New Republic Navy and it's associated PSF's. As a few of you have pointed out, the MC85's were obviously too large and too geared towards fighting Imperial battleships, so they were quickly retired or mothballed. Using a hullform similar to the MC80A for the new MC95's makes good sense, as it is a tried and true design AND is symbolic of the fact that the New Republic was formed from the older Alliance.

If I had to guess, the main differences between the MC80/MC80A's and the newer MC95's are as follows:

• Less crew intensive
• More standardized parts to improve maintenance and reduce operating costs
• Heavy focus on starfighter capacity and long range turbolasers and ion cannons
• Heavily shielded to compensate for less armament that prior generation of cruisers
• Incredibly fast sublight engines and hyperdrives

We still need to come up with an IU reason for why the MC75 types are super common too. OOU, we know that the model was used due to it being an existing digital asset at ILM (like the MC95 digital model from Galaxy's Edge). However, I do wonder what is the in-universe reason. The sheer number of them (75+ in one shot alone) points to the MC75 being far more numerous than it's contemporary Rebel cousins.

Any thoughts or ideas?

--Adm. Nick

 

I guess maybe the Rebels just did have a lot of MC75's, but they've been off-screen this whole time? I mean, that's how we explain the Rebel victory at Endor...lots of off-screen ships.

Speaking of Mon Calamari ships, how come all their Rebellion-era and New Republic-era ships have that "classic" Mon Calamari look, whereas earlier ones don't? Compare the MC75 and Recusant to the MC80, MC85, MC90, Viscount...

 

MC75s largely avoiding combat being the reason for their higher numbers at Exegol definitely makes sense to me. It would be interesting to see some of the variants we saw expanded upon as modifications focused on a support role. Or maybe a couple simply add more firepower, to bring them up to a par with other cruisers.

Speaking of the MC95, did anybody ever figure out a rough size estimate?

 

A lot of folks seem to be assuming MC95s were operated by the NRDF... The MC95 first appeared in Allegiance as part of Aftab's Mon Cala defense fleet, not the NRDF. The RoS novelization confirms the existence of a "Mon Calamari fleet" at Exegol, while no mention is made of NRDF forces. All the evidence points to the MC95s being operated by Mon Cala's defense fleet, not necessarily the NRDF.

Imo a more logical explanation is that the demilitarized NRDF never modernized beyond the MC85's "less crew-intensive" replacement(MC90), while the Mon Cals themselves continued to pump out cruisers until at least the MC95. The jump from 85 to 95 was likely a deliberate decision that took this into account.

 

Maybe MC90s made up the fleet over Hosnian Prime. Poor Defiance and Galactic Voyager.