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Senate Going Postal: The 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

Discussion in 'Community' started by Point Given , Nov 9, 2018.

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  1. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    The reason Trumpers hold sacred the right to consume, is that they know, deep in their hearts that it's the last right we have.
     
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  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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  3. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Which rights? Also, they have. They've killed people, destroyed the lives of their own communities even.

    This is everyday life. Unless we want a bubble boy society. There is a 99% survival rate. Also, pretty much every business requires a face mask. So if you wear a face mask outside, what's the difference if you walk by without one and keep your distance. Doesn't add up.

    Yeah i don't know what to say. People need to work to survive. The world must continue. If you feel at risk that voice the concern and see if there's potential for compromise.

    GANGS. ARE. BAD.

    Are disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing or do you really think deeming gangs terrorists is a bad thing? What this does is escalate them as a threat and the way in which they are dealt with will be way more severe.

    Report the employer.

    I know someone that was brought in unconscious from covid. Actively going to work, so it stirred up a scare.

    Still you can't just close down the world. We as people must move past all of this, and all that goes along with it.
     
  4. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    ****. That is brutal. I am so sorry to hear that. And I'm sorry you have to deal with asshats continuing to downplay the virus and make political points right to your face while you and your family are presumably still grieving. My condolences to you and your family. I wish that hadn't happened. I wish it wasn't happening to anyone. I wish a lot of things these days.
     
  5. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Their civil rights, their constitutional rights.
     
  6. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Everyone has the same rights.

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    Gangs. Destroy. Lives.

    Drugs. Destroy. Lives.

    Gotta say i can't believe the defenses. Thwarting youth in a more positive direction is bad? :oops:
     
  7. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Lol, the RNC has a bank robber who talked a judge into reducing his sentence and became a bible scammer. You can't make this **** up.
     
  8. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    @obi-arin-kenobi Yes, it is everyday life that people are self-centered ***holes.

    You, however, do have the option of not condoning that, and not encouraging a society that caters to them.

    Which goes back to my point about promoting/encouraging employers to offer flexible options. And for places that can not reopen right now, like bars, offering a stimulus package that would cover the employer and employees until this is over.

    How do we pay for it? By not bombing Brown people halfway around the world and by taxing the Jeff Bezos of the world.

    If you refuse to do any of that, it’s what I said earlier—just wanting businesses open so you can be served.

    So I’ll wait. Not holding my breath though.

    As far as the rights that the non-Kylo’s of the world are fighting for—how about the right to not be murdered by police over a counterfeit $20 bill.
     
  9. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Right. And therefore everyone should feel free to react the same way when they feel their right are being infringed upon, is that what you're saying?
     
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  10. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't know how wealthy @obi-arin-kenobi is or what he considers to be work, but a lot of rich people are very worried right now because the COVID shutdown is proof that a general strike is possible.
     
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  11. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    ...I'd ask if you understand science but its obvious you don't. Not to mention that even 1% of 5 million cases is still well over 50K deaths (with a long way to go), so you're fine with that then, which shows your (lack of) ethics.

    And that's not even going into the possible long-term effects of those who survive the virus (which will require a lot more science), but that's probably way over your head.

    You're fine with those Reopen mobs storming a federal building with assault weapons, but peaceful protestors being teargassed doesn't bother you, instead you're so concerned about gangs. Not like gangs walk around in broad daylight with police approval. But guess your life is fine, so its not your problem.
     
  12. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Across the board the involvement of law enforcement ruins the lives of young people, particularly racial minorities. They become trapped in situations in which they may not be able to further their educations and struggle to find decent work and suffer severe financial and mental health problems from being harassed by cops, arrested, tried, incarcerated, put on probation. This is not a positive direction.

    Also drug addiction is better treated as a public health issue and intervention in that vein leads to better outcomes than criminalizing the use of drugs.
     
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  13. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    He pardoned the bank robber live!
     
  14. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    There has been relief for some businesses but fact of the matter is many small businesses could not keep up and are now closed.

    Its not about "being served". Its that people have had their lives flipped upside down and it is from the closures.

    On top of that, you've got these mobs rioting filling downtown areas of cities(where's covid there?) *further* destroying peoples lives. There isn't going to be a concrete end to Covid for awhile, and the country needs to be open.

    What do you mean?

    The constitution applies to all citizens.

    I believe it starts earlier than that, and the gang violence is *part of the disconnect*. The gang violence helps to create these profiling. That is *why* this is such a good thing. When cops go to gamg/drug areas, they go already knowing the high potential for danger. They already know there's guns. Its a reality nobody wants to talk about, and its because gangs enforcing this ridiculous "no switching" nonsense, putting these communities in fearing, and in turn greatly affecting the next generation.
     
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  15. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of Future Films star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    You sure as hell can be flexible with your employees. You can not make them feel like they’re going to lose their jobs if they don’t report to work. You can offer them the option to work from home if that’s possible. In my sister-in-law’s case it certainly was because her ***hole boss was working from home himself! It’s not too much to ask that you not have to risk your ******* life just so you can feed your children.

    Thank you! [:D] I know I should step away but reading stupid ass comments like “Who is forcing anybody? People want to work.” just set me off.
     
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  16. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Just a note that we will be locking this thread when the RNC is over and staring a General Election Thread, as we did in 2016. Also will tighten the rules some to eliminate drive by tweet and image posts.
     
  17. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    And Republicans can't be trusted to uphold the Constitution.
     
  18. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Force Ghost star 6

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    Drive by-tweets are NOT terrorism!!!!! :p
     
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  19. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    You're not gonna let Ghost start it this time? :p
     
  20. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Thats what they are running on, to uphold it.
     
  21. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    LOL. I’ll wait for you to defend the peaceful protestors who are being tear gassed and otherwise brutalized by police. You know, the ones you are calling “mobs”. Protesting is also a constitutional right.

    I’ll also wait for you to defend the right to not be murdered by police. The unequivocal right, without any “but...” added.

    And stop pretending you care about anyone whose “life has been flipped upside down.” Not with your initial response to Chiznuk in which you indicated that his sister-in-law had a choice.

    For you it absolutely is about being served.
     
  22. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    Spoiler alert: they're lying.
     
  23. Harpua

    Harpua Chosen One star 9

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    This isn't about gangs. You're not concerned with how "gangs" affect society. This is you spewing not-so-thinly-veiled racism. White people storm a federal building armed to the teeth, and they're just innocently protecting their civil rights. But black and brown people surviving in the only way they know how to? TERRORISM.

    You fool nobody.
     
  24. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    But you said the folks storming federal buildings with semi-automatic rifles had a right to do so because they felt their rights (which rights??) were being infringed upon.

    The right to disregard local authorities is not anywhere in the Constitution, but the right to life is.
     
  25. Nobody145

    Nobody145 Force Ghost star 5

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    Since you believe that, I have a bridge in Brooklyn I'd like to sell you, are you interested?
     
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