Fun and Games Forum Discussion Thread

We already have something that is kind of like that with some major topics, for example the coronavirus stuff, it led to both a "serious" thread and another one that is more support oriented.

 

And finally after 8 pages...


Is it really so hard to simply mod people in threads where tweet / gif spam is getting annoying like PG did with me years ago:

I have not seen any mod comment saying "less tweets, more discussion" recently. As a result we have a thread where people get bashed, a discussion about removing user rights from certain people and other trash.

 

The problem imho is that many times people get upset about something or other and start attacking other users in mid-thread instead of just asking a mod to deal with it. And some of the concerns might be totally justified, but some of the others are taking things a bit too far (again, imho)

I don't remember when the "like" function was implemented or if it was a part of the forums in 2000ish, but isn't part of the reasoning that it already kinda encourages people to post things that other folks will enjoy/appreciate?

 

I stopped posting all stories that were related to the country. To the best of my recollection all the stories had come reliable news outlets, or at least news outlets I totally believed to be trustworthy, and I had no reason to believe the information was inaccurate. Because I have worked professionally as a journalist, I take great pride in making my best effort to weed out news outlets that have a long history of carrying inaccurate information.
But the point I tried to get across just now was simply that I didn't even challenge the reasoning behind why the stories made you and another Swedish poster uncomfortable, I simply avoided Sweden-related stories completely from that point on.

 

I'm not the one continuously conflating you with other users. Your operational mode is sweeping generalisations, and I don't appreciate it. You're doing it right here in this post.

I've been visiting the JCC for about eight years. Sometimes people post dumb stuff, that's alright if it's not too much. But this here Tina person is now responsible for about a quarter of all communication in the place. It's just non-stop. Always lengthy. Always generic. It makes all of us look bad by assosiation. Are we hanging around in this pathetic place? It's starting to feel like a Yahoo chatroom from 1999.

I grudgingly accept that as the new reality - to me comms threads about it are overkill and I don't care for rule changes. But I reserve the right to complain about it now and then. In quantity, what I bring is a tiny fraction in comparison. If that annoys you... tough luck.

 

Hey @SuperWatto , remember how several people insisted over and over again that this was about discussing an actual policy issue, as opposed to trying to conduct a referendum on individual posters?
This thread was supposedly about the issue of graphics on certain threads, and some thoughtful and constructive comments have been made along these lines. I'm really glad to see a bunch of folks thrown around some ideas around this subject.
And once again, to put things in perspective, a lot of specifics that have been mentioned were along the lines of things that happened in the first few months of this horrible pandemic, when a lot of us were frightened, stressed, and constantly trying to keep up with the latest developments and a series of constantly changing advice on what to wear in public spaces, and other bits of self-care we were supposed to exercise in order to stay free from coronavirus and to avoid spreading the disease.
I can also remember in the days before the gravity of the situation truly became clear, checking the forums only very occasionally during the day.
Because we've been experiencing circumstances that the world hadn't seen for 100 years, almost all of us - or at least a substantial number of us - have also faced unusually stressful situations, and I some parts of the world, especially those that are currently experiencing natural disasters, things just don't seem to let up. I see a lot of people everywhere experiencing not just stress and anxiety but also insomnia and other things many of us hadn't been experiencing nearly to the same degree, before all of this hit us.
At a time like this, it would behoove us to put aside petty issues and bickering that isn't getting us anywhere. One of the other persons in this thread already proposed a sort of truce and I took him up on it, why won't you try to do likewise?

 

It's just word puke, really. Stating the obvious with an overabundance of words and grandiosity. Get a hobby.

 

So you see how it is essentially impossible to satisfy you?

Just since this thread started, I've seen some of the horrible footage coming out of the Gulf area, some of which is way worse than I've ever seen and I've also learned that one of my friends lost her house due to the wildfires in California, luckily she and her wife were unharmed (and insured).

There is some real pain and suffering going on out there in the world and anyone with a heart understands this. Whatever things you find annoying about a silly Star Wars bulletin board don't begin to compare with the real human suffering that is happening all around us, and the slowly but apparently steady collapse of a democratic system of government in the US.

But. sure, tell us again how much it hurts you to see one too many newslinks in a thread that is about discussing the world/local events.

 

^ Base rate fallacy, false equivalence, fallacy of relative privation, ignoratio elenchi.

 

^ missing the point completely

 

I understand your point. It's simple. I dismiss it because it has no relevance.

 

It is only irrelevant if you fail to connect the dots.

But sure, keep demonstrating how your cantankerous attitude and total lack of empathy towards others keeps getting in the way of actually moving forward and finding common ground.

 

Maybe give every newslink two pages to be discussed and not post another one with a different topic 3 posts later. At least in the election and US politics thread.
Give it a try for e.g. two days and some people might calm down. I remember the endless and high frequency Ender_Bean posts in the Reylo threads. We had similar discussions. Not because of his posts but because of being overpresent.

 

Ok, look, I read your post, then I went and took a look at the last four pages of the election thread, then I took a look at the last four pages of the US politics thread.
Since I personally didn't share a single tweet or gif or photo in those eight pages combined, I'm going to assume you're talking about stuff that was posted by the other participants. I won't speak for them, or for the frequency with which they shared tweets/graphics, but I hope someone will let them know we're going to be keeping an eye on them.
I did find one hyperlink of mine that was text only, so going by the recent pages I'm definitely way under the threshold you've suggested.

 

See, I said on page 4 that Princess_Tina won't budge. Princess_Tina thought that was judgmental. But Princess_Tina isn't budging.
Meanwhile it's my cantankerous attitude and total lack of empathy towards others that keep getting in the way of actually moving forward and finding common ground

 

Hey, SW, try to keep up with the discussion. Someone here just suggested a rough threshold or limit and going by the last 8 pages of the two threads he specifically mentioned, I actually didn't share any tweets, photos or gifs in any of them, only one hyperlink that was text only.
So the limit he mentioned as a suggestion wouldn't actually affect me personally, although others might or might not be affected, depending.
I've mentioned several times in the thread that I don't mind at all if the Senate threads are kept mostly free from anything but text.
You are the only one here who isn't budging - from your preconceived notions and inability to let go of old grudges.

 

I don't bear grudges. I just want to avoid your onslaught. Are there any threads you don't post in? Maybe I can hide there.

 

The only thing you can't hide is that you aren't at all interested in the actual topic that we have all been discussing, and that you would much prefer to turn the thread into the very thing that Jello had said he didn't want the first time this came up in Comms.

Look, folks -- "this is the way we've always done it" isn't going to be a justification for board policy, and it is NOT going to be a justification to try to badger another user to conform to a desired set of behaviors. Boards have their culture, but board culture also changes with the times too. We're a very old messageboard coming up against a much faster-moving news cycle than even we are used to.

I do not want this thread to become a referendum on a single user's behavior. It's being exactly what I thought it was, even though I was immediately assured that it is not in fact about a single user.

Part of that is because there's a discussion going on back and forth. I am fine with folks having a discussion and there's something to be said of the community deciding how it wants certain threads to go.

 

I don't know who's fooling who, but we're in this discussion solely because of your extreme posting habits.
Can you answer my question? Seeing how you're interested in common ground.

 

There you go again, just because you make up a lie and insist that it must be true, doesn't make it so.

GAJ had said the first time around that it's OK to start a thread in Comms if we're going to discuss a matter of policy changes, but that if it was about badgering a single forum user, it was a situation that was best handled by going to the mods about it and/or dealing with things on a case-by-case basis.

So, don't change the topic and start to single out people you don't like. As far as the whole thing with tweets and photos and gifs, I've actually been using a lot less than some of the other people posting in the Senate threads, so I don't mind further limits on how many non-text items can be posted,

 

Can you answer my question? Then I'll leave this discussion.

 

SW, the overwhelming majority of folks who have posted here have been actually pretty good about keeping the discussion focused on where it was supposed to be. We will either try the thing with the thread title, or one of the other solutions that have been suggested by others.
Your continuous efforts to distract from the purpose of the thread should be noted because they really represent the very thing this thread should not be, and even Darth Punk was reminding folks to stop making it about individual users and just focus on the policy discussion.

Is it too much to ask that you respect the purpose and intent of this thread?
If you have any questions that are unrelated to the thread topic, feel free to send a pm.

 

wtf, Tina, you're still awake? Jesus... take a break, get some sleep.

Again, I offered a compromise, twice, trying to move forward with some positive change. You blew it off. It os becomimg clear that you enjoy the attention. You are clearly more interested in arguing endlessly than resolving this.

I have to get ready for my first day of my new job, so I'm not going to be around for your response.

Yet again... offering a compromise. I will chill on the comments, but you also need to chill with the turbo-posting and Twitter spam.

Are you willing to even budge here?

 

No, @harpua , I definitely did not blow it off, nor do I "enjoy" attention when it consists of constant badgering. Quite the contrary, actually, but in any case, we've had a fairly good discussion on the issue that appeared to be on the top of many people's minds and I feel we all moved forward.
As has been so repeatedly pointed out, this thread was never supposed to be a referendum on any single person, so I'm sure that seems fair enough since it was a request that came down from GAJ from the earlier thread, and DP repeated it here.
Whatever new policy is ultimately decided upon, I'm sure all of us will abide by it, so I'm not sure why you're conflating two different things, one of them is that all of us will abide by the future policy, whatever it will be, and the other thing was in regards to various other things that were not directly covered by the policy under discussion, anyhow.
That's a slightly convoluted way of saying that we're all good, imho, in as far as all of us will make sure to comply with both existing policies as well as any new ones we may decide on, after the discussion reaches some sort of conclusion.
But incidentally I don't see how everyone agreeing to abide by all forum rules should somehow require some kind of "compromise" between users, lol, we're all supposed to follow the TOS and all forum rules as a condition of being here in the first place, aren't we?