Senate Going Postal: The 2020 U.S. Presidential Election

No, it is not "standard infighting." This has not happened before. The CIA in the Bush years literally broke the law and the Geneva conventions. They murdered people. Tortured people who we know were innocent. The Obama Administration declined to even press charges, because that's how unusual this kind of infighting is perceived. Especially when re-litigating a past administration's actions. You literally don't know what you're talking about here.

 

In Michigan, there have been a lot of attack ads on Senator Peters for not producing economic help for small businesses, for not providing more unemployment benefits, for siding with Democrats in voting against the (Republican) relief bill, etc. These are half truths at best, but they could work if people don’t know any better.

His opponent is John James, a black former soldier who is naturally a warhawk and gun nut, a big Trump supporter, has been very clear about wanting to ban all abortion with no exceptions, is against LGBTQ rights, is a supporter of DeVos style education policy that destroyed our public schools, wants to repeal Obamacare and replace with nothing, extremely harsh on immigrants, opposes raising the minimum wage, etc. Pretty much everything I hate. I’ll be voting against him soon.

 

No, it is not "standard infighting." This has not happened before. The CIA in the Bush years literally broke the law and the Geneva conventions. They murdered people. Tortured people who we know were innocent. The Obama Administration declined to even press charges, because that's how unusual this kind of infighting is perceived. Especially when re-litigating a past administration's actions. You literally don't know what you're talking about here.

 

Lol, nah, you're the one who doesn't know what he's talking about

 

" We will make America great again... again "

^ He really said this.

They're such a joke, my god. A serious, tragic joke.

 

Do you care to explain, again?

Your point isn't a good one. Yes, it's true the intelligence agencies don't like their powers restricted. It is fully possible that they also dislike being criminally investigated. And it doesn't reconcile the contradictory nature of Senate Republicans' actions.

 

In Trumpworld the country was on fire during Obama's term and miraculously recovered in January 2017, so that's probably the supposed recovery Pence is talking about.

Their white grievance messaging has been pretty consistent, which is why Trump's base is so fanatical. The rest of it, like the talk about how Trump supposedly built the greatest economy in just four years or that he'll rebuild that greatest economy after it was supposedly ruined by China (despite how many holes there are in their story), is just window dressing.

 

Not really, because I don't feel the need to give you a history lesson. Russiagate is fake, hyperbolic junk, get over it.

 

Fake junk that Senate Republicans felt very comfortable calling out in dozens of ways except for a couple of very specific oes by the committees that studied it most deeply.

But yes, please take your ball and go home after assuring everyone you are somehow secretly right. This is not something we've seen from you before.

 

That would be a better thing. Sorry. I'm really tired and it's been hectic at work, but positive.

I hope the storm victims get some assistance. Hurricanes get worse due to climate change.

Yeah, Trump should be tested for more than that. I was thinking more of the Hitler comparisons, ZanderSolo. But if anything, his emotions rule his mind, and there's not much there mentally beyond pettiness and resentment. I don't know if he has sypholis. I was wondering if he had claymedia. Sorry. Can't spell either of those, but you know what I mean. He's poisonous.

 

Glitterstimm, don't you think everyone is entitled to having their own opinion about this? As much as I don't want to get into an extended discussion about it, many of us have reached our conclusions based not in wild rumors and accusations, but on a lot of official information that has come from the intelligence agencies of the US and the Five Eyes.
I wouldn't dream of trying to change your mind about the whole thing, but it is disingenuous to pretend that absolutely nothing improper happened. There's just too much evidence already out - and probably a lot more that remains classified. Because the IC doesn't like to compromise their intelligence sources, obviously.
But there is plenty of information from official sources that strongly suggests Trump would already have been indicted if he wasn't a sitting president, and his own DOJ hadn't been there to help cover up what really happened and present a rose-tinted distillation of the Mueller report.

 

Lol, I'm not going anywhere. Stop acting like a child

 

Estimates for damages for Laura: $90 billion.
Funds in FEMA's Disaster Relief Fund: $70 billion.
Of which, Trump took $44 billion to pay for his unemployment 'executive order'.
The only question is, with Texas and Louisiana traditionally red states, what is Trump going to raid next to pay for it all?

 

He'll probably promise the world, then do some awful publicity stunts like in Puerto Rico, FEMA response will be a pathetic but he'll say it's great, and try to keep the jig up till election day.

 

I don't understand this comment. Is it some kind of "own" if a 70+ year old man has erectile dysfunction? How is it that you're fighting the toxic masculinity of the republicans when you're....promoting the same toxic masculinity.

 

Yeah, I don't give a **** about Trump's limp ****.

Edit: lol, I thought I was in the **** posting thread. Oh well, my point still stands.

 

Um. I may have inadvertently stepped into an alternate universe, because I find myself agreeing with you for a change.
Yes I do believe an elected official should be examined by medical professionals for any and all issues which might negatively impact their ability to carry out their official duties and responsibilities. I don't think we have that in the US, but if we don't, we should.
And let's not care about elected officials' ability to perform in their private capacity - whether they are men, women, or any other gender.

See? Any one of us can make an honest mistake and forget what thread we're posting in.

 

No ****ing when it comes to JC. FTFY

 

The Republicans also sabotaged that economic recovery. They're perfectly willing to fund economic stimulus under a Republican president and deny it to a Democratic president...deliberately harming the country for partisan gain. Yes, they are that cynical and evil.

 

And they've gotten even worse since then, as even with a Republican president right now they still refuse to vote for stimulus funding.

Well, they're probably also going scorched earth, not like the majority of the country would vote for them anyway, and the Republican base doesn't need stimulus money, they live on spite.

 

And to think the democrats were all perfectly willing to support an even bigger stimulus package when th pandemic first hit, which if anything would have politically helped the present administration just ahead of the November election.

Mind-boggling.

 

Indeed, and I wouldn't quite call it accidental or unwanted on the GOP side.