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JCC Discussion Time: Let's Talk About Drafts - next draft?

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthIntegral, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    yeah, it also goes back further than 1885 right?
     
  2. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Yeah - back to 1871

    (that sound you hear is Pointy thinking about what that might mean for Old Hoss)
     
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  3. LloydChristmas

    LloydChristmas Baseball and Three-Time Jedi Draft Champion star 5 VIP - Game Winner

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    Would it be possible to shift entirely into a beat reporter role

    But taking Addie as my colleague b/c he will never play for dp. Ever.
     
  4. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Oh wow. 1871 + the Negro League are massive game changers.

    And also my two for-sure keepers (Ruth and Hornsby) might be oil and water.

    Okay... I suggest this knowing full well that it'll piss off the GMs that have extra keeper slots and also that deeps won't be penalized for his shenanigans... but this being so, so different (and likely much better) from what we're currently doing, maybe we should do a full re-draft and start the keepers after next season.

    Anustart, if you will.
     
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  5. LloydChristmas

    LloydChristmas Baseball and Three-Time Jedi Draft Champion star 5 VIP - Game Winner

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    No. I will watch Shane Spencer play like Shane Spencer. I will watch it and smile.
     
  6. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    as someone with 5 keeper slots i just want to say that i'd actually be fine with starting the keepers after next season if that's what the majority of gm's prefer.
     
  7. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I do think you should get those 5 rolled over to Season 5... seems fair.
     
  8. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    Look I don't want to be a negative nancy but the ball hadn't even been invented in 1871. They were using turnips. Most of them were missing body parts from the war. If you had all of your legs you were an all-star.
     
  9. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I am 100% in favor of keeping the keepers as intended from this season.

    • Junking it would be an unfair punishment to Pointy, who gets nothing of value for giving up on Pete Alexander
      • There are potentially others who made similar decisions just not as obvious
    • Everyone has the option to change years on their keepers
    • I'm planning on doing a "what could have been" for rosters from a snapshot during this season to show everyone how their players would have performed in the new sim
    • I'm happy to introduce a "keeper buy back" opportunity should a GM want to not utilize their keeper slot
    • It's ****ing cool to carryover something from season to season besides tom's team's name and Pointy winning
     
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  10. tom

    tom Chosen One star 8

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    keeping the keepers is my preference as well, just wanted to say that i would go the other way if everyone else felt strongly about it.
     
  11. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah I definitely want to keep people
     
  12. AmazingB

    AmazingB Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I was all in already and now I am more...inner...

    Amazing.
     
  13. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    To be clear, I'm cool with keeping keepers as well. I'm more than satisfied with my trio, even if the third one is kinda up in the air now. I just thought I'd suggest it given how many more things there are to consider when building a team now.
     
  14. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I'm keeping Shane Spencer, Joba Chamberlain, and Howard the Duck!
     
  15. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    I don't want to do more work.
     
  16. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I'm putting this in stone and charging him Intybucks if he wants to change
     
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  17. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Yeah I want my keepers. Made the trade so I could keep all four of Bonds, A-Rod, Old Hoss and Trout.
     
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  18. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    yes to keepers. mantle will win an mvp for the bandwagoners before i die and/or forget about the jcc.
     
  19. Wang Chi

    Wang Chi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I'd say that settles that. Cool beans.
     
  20. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    I actually wouldn't mind no keepers, but then I would be on the hook for some kind of compensation for PG, whatever that might be.
     
  21. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I would absolutely love a co-host and with all the updates we can provide, it would warrant it

    And, I mean, like ... the rules don't prevent a GM from taking a keeper and not playing next year. So, you could theoretically remove Joss, Ted Williams, and Sean Casey from the game until your triumphant return. I think.
     
  22. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    Alright, so I promised you all some previews of how players/teams do in the new sim. Some caveats:

    1) The new sim requires a 40-man roster due to injuries, etc. They create fake players. I went through and made sure opening day rosters had no fake players, but I can't guarantee that going forward.
    2) the rosters are built from a snapshot of what rosters looked like at some point in the season, not at season end. I had to play around with the new sim to figure out how to batch import so I didn't have to manually add every player. There are errors, but this should be directionally accurate.
    3) I'll wait to sim more to see if anyone wants to see more info.
    4) Just ... ignore player pictures. Some are bad and some are really, really, bad

    Here are some excerpts, about one month into the season:

    Standings:

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    Basic Batting Leaders:

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    Basic Pitching Leaders:

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    WAR for position players:

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    News Examples:

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  23. dp4m

    dp4m Chosen One star 10

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    I love that only Amazings look Amazing in the fake sim... :p

    Also, what is the new sim and how do we view players in it?
     
  24. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral JCC Baseball Draft/SWC Draft Commish star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP - Game Host

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    I'm using Out of the Park 21

    And I'm not sure what you mean by view players
     
  25. a star war

    a star war Force Ghost star 5

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    He means scouting, I'm guessing.