The Mandalorian The Mandalorian 2.06 - Chapter 14 - Discussion Thread (Spoilers Allowed)

The casual fan does not even recognize that the thing has Anakin's old engine. Can you explain to me in detail why this bothers you, if it's not because other people liked it? If it doesn't change the narrative one bit, how does it bother you? And even more so, why would a casual fan be bothered by something they didn't even recognize? Didn't you say a few days ago that "it gets annoying because if 100 people are watching the episode, then 90 of them would get annoyed because the other 10 would cheer and laugh and be excited when they show easter eggs" to paraphrase?

I am not making that stuff up, I have seen multiple people literally get annoyed because other people get excited about that stuff. Not a good reason to get annoyed. Let people enjoy their easter eggs, if these easter eggs do not hurt the story.

Exactly.

And this is why Filoni and Favreu are doing a great job. They approach the show from all angles. They know what the casual fan needs, and they know what the hardcore fans knows and wants too. Favreau literally said so in Disney Gallery : The Mandalorian, and I was actually moved by it. Finally , two people that actually know what people want to see and also get Star Wars, therefore creating a show that the vast majority of people loves. Why is this not a good thing?

 

Everything in bold is all your own interpretation. Not proved, not explained.

HOWEVER - its great that you do that....that is what fiction is all about....you interpret what you are seeing and hearing and make up your own mind. Nothing wrong with that at all.

 

I understand your point, but allow me to use one of your examples, so I can understand better what you think of it. That the Tuskens travel in single file is established in the first movie. Not criticizing or anything, just curious: why do you feel this hinders the episode? Don't you think there would be a huge part of the fanbase whining about it if the Tuskens weren't shown traveling in single files? "the writers don´t know the material" "they haven't even seen ANH!", "blabla, blablablaaaa", and so on. Isn't a good thing to know they remember and care enough to include such a detail in the writing?

I mean, I know what you´re really aiming at: there shouldn't be so many references as to obscure the plot. Its a fair point. But even if you don´t know who Boba Fett is, by last weeks episode you already know context, you can understand why the armor of season 2 episode 1 had this extra meaning, and that it was to be developed later on. Its self explanatory, looking only to reward people who has been following the series... something that shouldn't be seen as bad in a series that gets sometimes criticized as one full of filler, adventure of the week kind of episodes, I imagine...

 

I mean, I love what Favreu and Filoni are bringing to the table, but I also love what Chow, Famuyiwa, Howard and the others are offering, I’m all for multiple people offering their unique perspectives and voices to the Star Wars universe.

I think the show is excelling because of the variety of people working on it, as well as the fact that having people like Filoni and Favreu working to have a coherence story to it all.

 

I think TM can bring a heck of a lot to the character that we haven’t seen before

 

yes exactly, he was a undervalued accessory to AOTCs, and here in the Mandalorian he offers his services again to a secondary character, but brings all his swagger to it. It works really well...and helps establish the character, Boba Fett, in this era after ROTJ

 

Im not going to do the quote/multi quote thing because it would be too big since several people have talked about it. My question is why would Tuskan Raiders moving in single file be fan service? Wouldn't that be an essential part of their instincts/habits/nature?

 

I was referring specifically to planning the main story, the script, and the characters. Chow, Famuyiwa, Howard and Rodriguez are given scripts and direct the episodes. They have the artistic freedom to change a few things here and there, and they all together sit and discuss about all the nuances of the show, but at the end of the day it is F+F that decide what's going to happen in the story and where they want to go with it. Filoni already knows where the show will go by the end of however seasons they will make, and I bet you Favreu and him have laid out a plan for all of this.

It's called attention to detail, not fan service, if you ask me.

 

Correct that’s not fan service

 

Wow, apparently Rodriguez was a last minute replacement.

https://www.gamesradar.com/the-mand...one-of-the-star-wars-shows-best-episodes-yet/

He's always been near the top of my list for a Boba Fett film, so I'm even more thankful that he seized this opportunity.

 

This show was going so well with ALL fans really....up until this point. Chapter 14 has divided opinion more than any other episode and a real shame after the success of the last two or three episodes. The interpretation of 'fan service' where Boba Fett's resurrection is concerned is a telling reason I think.

 

I don't know about that. There are voices in here, but the world is raving about F+F even more after Chapter 14. Everyone has lost their mind about how good this show is on all social media, and many people are saying it's even better than Chapter 13 (I don't agree with that). Opinions about Chapter 14 are most certainly not divided. 80% of the votes even in this topic, have given the episode 8 out of 10 or better. I do not call this divisive.

 

Not sure many people are saying its better than Ch. 13, which it is clearly not (mainly due to the directing style and location/world building rather than characters) I would guess. The poll on this forum for Chapter 13 is WAY more than 80% giving it an 8+. In fact - nearly 80 % give it a 10!

 

I actually rated this episode as mediocre but it was mostly due to how Din came off as dumb. I had less of a problem with other characters and directing but ... Din, dude. He left his jetpack, he left Grogu, never checked his ship for a tracker when he's got valuable assets onboard (and he's a pro), etc. They should have treated him much better in the writing.

(Nope not better than "The [Baby] Jedi" episode. )

 

I don’t think Din was dumb this episode

 

I agree but too many characters across the universe act like Jedi are folklore that don't even exist, when the order itself was around only 30 years before on the capital planet of the republic. At least for me it comes across as implausible sometimes

 

Yeah they purposefully went out to make Fett look like the way more intelligent, heroic and dangerous Mandalorian! And it worked

 

Fett is way more dangerous as he has literally nothing to lose

 

No, 50% gave it a 10. But what I am saying is that regardless of whether 13 or 14 is better in your opinion or mine, both are widely accepted as great episodes. People are not divided about either of the episodes. They overwhelmingly loved both of these episodes. Art is subjective btw, I also prefer Chapter 13 but I can't tell someone that they have to think it's better than 14. And yes, there are many people who liked 14 better than 13, so what? Isn't it great that we can love both episodes?

 

I tend to agree with you, especially with him trying to run into the force-field three different times and knocking himself out. He's been so smart and accurate in every other situation and then he just made one bonehead decision after another in this episode. it did take me out of it to an extent. And that's the part that felt like fanservice to me was like oh we have Boba back we got to make him the star of this episode. Same thing happened last episode to a lesser extent ashoka got all the big plot points while mando batted clean up. But they still give him enough to do in that episode, but this episode like you said he made dumb decisions and was left out to dry some

 

The only (mostly) universal complaint I have heard was about Tython being lacking

 

None of that matters. He's a guy that seems to tracking Mando. Given the dynamics of last season, that's all casual audiences need to know. Knowing that he might be Boba Fett is of no consequence to the story. My wife, who doesn't know anything Star Wars, simply said: "Oh ****, another bounty hunter is tracking him." That's exactly what the show makes you think. And...it was true. It's just that us fans know exactly who that bounty hunter was.

 

Oh, and they blew up the shows LEAD characters' cool spaceship! Unless they have major plans......like Din getting Slave 1.....I saw absolutely no point in them destroying the Razor Crest.

 

There was totally a point for destroying the ship it was to get Din to his lowest point yet in the show

 

Where did I tell someone to think one is better than the other?