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Lit From Endor to Exegol - The State of the Galaxy Discussion Thread (Tagged Victory's Price Spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by AdmiralNick22 , Sep 6, 2015.

  1. Xammer

    Xammer Jedi Master star 3

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    BTW, do people here realize that the Aftermath trilogy doesn't mention at all one of the defining events of that year, Operation Cinder?
     
  2. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    No one mentions the events of Rogue One in A New Hope, either. What an oversight!
     
  3. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Aftermath was more focused on showing us the rise of the New Republic and the slow collapse of the Empire. Shattered Empire was more focused on Cinder itself. Both came our prior to TFA, so it makes sense that each had a singular focus. Not only that, but Cinder became a MUCH larger part of the post-Endor narrative in the subsequent years.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  4. Jid123Sheeve

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    It's funny how stuff in Aftermath is sticking and other not so much.

    The de-militarization thing while not going away i feel is getting more clarification with new stuff.

    Jakku being the last great Stand of Empire Proper is remaining (Although I think that's been there even before Aftermath)

    Rax hasn't gotten mentioned in much sadly. Only other thing he gets referenced in is reference books and Battlefront 2.

    Does he get mentioned in Alphabet Squadron.
     
  5. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    In directly. Though he wasn't the public head of the Empire remember.
     
  6. Jid123Sheeve

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    I think I remember something in Aftermath 3 Empires End how Mas Amedda praises Consular Rax's efforts in forced propaganda videos
     
  7. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    ok. I don't remember that. But I read those books a long while ago.
     
  8. Xammer

    Xammer Jedi Master star 3

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    Rogue One and ANH are separated by 40 years. Aftermath and the stuff that mentions Cinder all came out of the Story Group.
     
  9. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    um, no they are not.

    Rouge One ends with Leia's ship jumping into hyperspace and A New Hope opens with it being attacked by Vaders ship.

    There is a few hoursish time between the two.
     
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  10. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I am about 99% sure that Cinder gets mentioned in Aftermath III.

    Maybe.
     
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  11. Xammer

    Xammer Jedi Master star 3

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    Maybe your post was sarcasm, but I meant out of universe (hence the reference to the Story Group).

    It's not, just did a ctrl+f.
     
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  12. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Oh I see, sorry I thought you meant in Universe. haha. I was rather confused.

    Although one could argue that Rouge One IS mentioned in A New Hope, just in an oblique way (first victory).

    I think the reason Cinder isn't mentioned in Aftermath is the inverse, that it was made before Cinder was decided as a thing.

    Aftermath does mention the infighting of Imperials doesn't it?
     
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  13. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Aftermath: Life Debt took Zsinj's sleeper agent idea but had to butcher Kashyyyk in the process. Seriously, the Wookiee homeworld sits on vital hyperlanes, I would've made this system top of my list after Mon Cala, Naboo and Chandrila to liberate. Heck, I'd set up base on Tatooine to take advantage of the chaos from the death of Jabba or Sullust and move up the trade routes.
     
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  14. Jid123Sheeve

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    So....how come we don’t have a thread for like the other big gap era’s

    like with Bad Batch coming up how come we don’t have idk

    Mustafar to Scarif

    or Empire to Endor or something?

    the prequel of this thread ?
     
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  15. AV-6R7

    AV-6R7 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I would absolutely adore a Mustafar to Scarif thread. Would like some PT versions too, but there probably isn't enough content between Naboo and Geonosis to justify one, and Geonosis to Mustafar is just the entire Clone Wars. So, yeah, Mustafar to Scarif is gonna be super relevant once Bad Batch drops.
     
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  16. Jid123Sheeve

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    Ask...And you shall receive

    https://boards.theforce.net/threads/from-mustafar-to-scarif-a-state-of-the-galaxy-thread.50055940/
     
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  17. Jid123Sheeve

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    Was re-listening to Aftermath Life Debt Audibook.

    Found it interesting Mass Ameeda calling Rae Sloane leading the most well armed and powerful faction of Imperial Remnants out there...Probably THE FACTION as he calls it since it's the Imperial Navy.

    Also mentions on how Sloane's faction are ridding themselves of those who aren't submitting to her (Well more likely Rax's) orders. (Operation Cinder 2.0 hints there)
     
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  18. AdmiralNick22

    AdmiralNick22 Retired Fleet Admiral star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    So interesting little nuggets in The Star Wars Book by Pablo Hidalgo. There is a section devoted to the New Republic, as well as several mentions throughout the book. I'll post some of the stuff here later. I liked reinforcing some of the little things, like mentioning a smaller NRDF and a greater reliance on member PSF's. Also, a comment about the Hosnian Cataclysm destroying "most" but not all of the navy.

    It is an exceptionally well written book that covers things by topic and chronologically. I highly recommend it.

    --Adm. Nick
     
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  19. Jid123Sheeve

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    Oh I LOOOOOOVE that book! Especially since it's post Rise of Skywalker and actually gets into the Palpatine stuff a bit more.

    I love books like this that reinforce ideas but also smooth over some of the wonkier aspects of lore to make it more cohesive and fleshed out.
     
  20. Jid123Sheeve

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    Sorry for the DP

    But

    @AdmiralNick22

    We talked about this a little bit but I do wonder how much wiggle room things like the Mandoverse have to show conflict. As you said previously I don't think whatever forces Thrawn and Gideon are commanding are going to be as organized or powerful as The First Order. I do wonder if one could make whatever conflict arises as a sorta just a bunch of leftover forces trying to rally together but ultimately failing and as you said previously make the New Republic even MORE confident in their security in the galaxy.

    Like here's a weird parallel but it's sorta like a good guy version of Order 66? Yeah the Jedi always get wiped out but some scatter and then some mount a last desperate stand. Granted Jakku was the last desperate stand. But I suppose it's Last Stand of the main Empire...Empire scatters, and then they try to get together one more time but get easily beaten. Thus the New Republic thinks they are winning the overall direction of the galaxy.

    I mean it's only what 5 years after Jakku so their is still some cleanup going on, so it doesn't necessarily interfere with the remainder period of peace and quiet...minus perhaps some piracy and small problems.

    Still I do wonder about that wiggle room...Unless they just sorta ignore Bloodline or at least don't take that one line of peace super literal.
     
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  21. T7-01

    T7-01 Jedi Knight star 2

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    I still can't believe the Resistance/FO conflcit doesn't have a name. It bugs me much more than it should.
     
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  22. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Second Galactic Civil War, in my eyes.
     
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  23. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    Same here.

    Both Solo dark siders usurped their superiors: Kylo directing killing Snoke, while Caedus had Cal Omas removed from office and then became sole dictator after Niathal turned against him.

    Differences: Caedus worked from an established government, successor to the NR and Rebel Alliance, while the First Order was more marauding, coming in from the outside.
     
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  24. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    The Revenge of General Weasley
     
  25. PCCViking

    PCCViking Chosen One star 10

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    General Hux: Red Hair, Vacant Expression, Hand Me Down Empire...Must be a Weasley.
     
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