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I usually call him Anakin regardless, since that's the name of his true self. Sometimes, though, it feels appropriate to go with Vader. I sort of go with the flow!

 

yeh i kinda agree tho I think he is definately Vader by the time he kills the separatists

 

70 years, almost a century of darkness.

 

Even worlds controlled by the Empire from the very end of the Clone Wars to the fall of the First Order (possibly including Exegol) are only going to have been controlled for 23+31 years - that's 54 years, not 70.

The only way to get close to 70 is to treat "darkness" as beginning the moment Palpatine became Chancellor - that adds an extra 13, bringing it to 67 years.

 

Yoda thinks he /they have failed

 

he has been involved in with the jedi for nigh on 900 years.. they failed to forsee what happened. Yoda doesn't go and hide in a swamp for decades for no reason.. not unlike Luke on his island.. hence failure is their link but also the source of the final victory

 

just the sound of Yoda audibly choking on his emotion after Bails rescue tells me he is devastated not tactical.. tho he may feel has no option but to choose disappearing as his only option. This is also the reason for my prob unpopular opinion.. Luke does exactly the same in the ST.. both devastated after glorious victories but living to fight another day despite their doubts and fears

 

I've always felt that the whole reign of the Empire could have been mitigated had Obi-Wan and Yoda not split up near the end of ROTS, with the former going to fight Anakin and the latter to fight Palpatine, but instead stuck together and took each of the Sith on one at a time. Yoda and Palpatine were evenly matched enough that the addition of another Jedi could have conceivably turned the tide, meaning they would have beaten Sidious, and Yoda wouldn't have left Anakin alive, meaning no Vader. Sure, the Jedi Order's still pretty much decimated and the public would still believe that the Jedi had tried to usurp the government, but at least the new rulers of the galaxy would be random Senate bureaucrats rather than two Sith Lords.

 

Palpatine was able to take out 3 Jedi Masters simultaneously, and keep in mind that Obi-Wan was taken out pretty early in both duels against Dooku, who wasn't nearly as powerful as Palpatine.

Obi-Wan may have lasted a little longer if he was with Yoda, but he would have been easily dispatched nonetheless.

 

Yep, Obi-Wan would most likely have been killed.
They also had to go after both as quickly as possible, at the same time, to have a chance at success. If they'd taken on one Sith together, the other might've sensed what was going on - or even been warned by his master/apprentice - and taken measures to become much more difficult to find and kill.
The element of surprise was crucial.

 

I agree. All civilizations fall eventually. The fact that Yoda and the Jedi failed to foresee Sidious'plot does not diminish the thousands of years of peaceful rule before this.

 

yes the thousand year peace was a great achievement.. but Yoda still feels his own failure

 

Agreed.

 

I think the failure of the jedi don't really start happenning until 50-100 years before the phantom menace, it's a slow dakness that kills the jedi's light slowly and corrupt the republic.

 

Communications are not possible while in hyperspace.

 

The dark side prevents them to foresee. And Yoda exiled himself because the Jedi are persecuted. There's no link of failure.

 

their own blindness is the dark side.. for years Yoda thought he was on the same side as Palpatine.. the dark side clouds everything but he should have been powerful enough to see through it. just listen to how distraught Yoda is after his duel with palps... failed i have...
this is what makes his talk with Luke in TLJ resonate with me so much

 

False. The dark side is what causes the "blindness":

"The dark side clouds everything. Impossible to see the future is." - Yoda

"The dark side of the Force has clouded their vision." - Dooku

"It’s not that they can’t see the dark side coming, it’s just that the dark side begins to envelop everything. It’s like walking into a fog. The Jedi’s ability to see lessens as the dark side grows." - George Lucas

No, it's not about power. Not to mention that's some twisted logic of blaming the victim. If I deceive you, can I blame you for it?

 

still doesn't alter the fact Yoda thinks he failed and he would never see himself as a victim.

 

He did fail to defeat Sidious. Besides:

 

i think he is referring to everything

 

Thousands of years of peace means little when you fail to maintain that peace when it matters the most. You can have all the success you want, but when you fail to stop the one thing you're there to stop, which is the fall of the Republic, those prior successes pale in comparison and lose their luster. And while yes, you cannot pin the failure of the prequel era Jedi on those who came before them, it does not change the fact that the Jedi ultimately failed. You also don't get to give credit to the prequel era Jedi for all the successes that came before them.