A/V Star Wars: The Bad Batch Series Discussion Thread

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Scorch!! Gregor! Wonder where the rest of Delta is?

 

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I'm beginning to suspect that we'll find out why there were no Kaminoans in the Original Trilogy. I suspect they will go the same way as the Geonosians.

 

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Ok, this episode i enjoy very mutch, seeing Gregor again i had the feeling it would be him or Wolfe, And ii love how he's already little cracked. Nice cameo by Stryder/Rex again, Seems he in his own kinda trouble. We will see him in next episode. I liked the new planet, a hidden imperial base in outer rim, nice. We see the return of clone commando units, and easter egg of a known clone commando, nice. We see first batch of TK storm troopers, love the new design for them, good they using old strom troopers designs. Also i kinda tired of stunning now, just blast the canon fodder. Wrecker knows what im talking about.

Return to Kamino finally again and you get this feeling of dread for the kaminoans, almsot all the clone troopers and cadets are being shiped off elsewhere. The Empire has plans for the remaining clones and the kaminaons. Lama su says all the contracts been cancelled and unlike with the republic they can't continnue with other client, they be wiped out then. SO they prepare to leave but gets found out and the emprie takes Nala Sa and puts Lama Su in house arrest, he is not killed of screen, he a major movie and tv show character. Clone wars and rebels didn't kill of major characters off screen so i doubt Bad Batch does it too. When Felling Hunter is cought and reunites with Crosshair.

 

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For a minute there I thought the Bad Batch had stumbled across Mount Tantiss.

 

crossed my mind as well.

 

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Cool to see the transition from Clonetroopers to Stormtroopers tackled early on as when I first read that Clonetroopers were phased out after a year in source books, it's cool to see a story addressing it. Where the TK troopers armour based upon early Ralph McQuarrie production art for The Star Wars? It didn't look exactly like the classic Stormtrooper armour.

The Kamonians are going to end up rather messy, I feel. Too bad they didn't try to sell their wares to the Corporate Sector.

 

So is this the end of seeing Phase 2 Imperial Clone Troopers?

We know there were still clones serving the empire years after Bad Batch.

Perhaps they are all updated with proto Stormtrooper armor or are eventually updated when traditional stormtrooper armor is invented.

I’m hoping we still see some Bad Batch vs Phase 2 armored Clones.

 

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Looks like the clones are gone. Except for the commandos.

Interesting that the clone commandos seemed to beat the bad batch a bit there. I guess they are the the 'Super Battle droids' here.

I also think the PM is dead.

 

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I liked the use of the music from the Death Star escape. Gave the moment a feel of the prequels era coming to a close that much more.

 

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Really liked this episode. Nice to see Gregor already acting a bit crazy. And Lama Su is a Kaminoan to the end - when cornered by Rampart, he doesn't even panic or show much of any other emotion. He's like, "oh, too bad, guess I'll die now or something". And I loved that Gonky got to be useful!

 

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yeah, that was McQuarrie early concept stormtrooper armor. Loved it. My kids were noticing the similarities with First Order armor as well as the cadet helmets from Rebels. I said, "yeah. Ralph McQuarrie's work is always being reused and repurposed and reinterpreted."

Loved seeing Scorch btw.

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So the clones are now outnumbered 20-1if we apply this number out that means there are something like 200 million stormtroopers that’s a number that makes way more sense than the clones 5 million.

 

The last episodes I watched were the Ryloth centered ones, and I loved seeing Hera and Chopper again. I was a little surprised by the naming choice of Hera's mom- Eleni? Why didn't they just go with Rhea, who was Hera's mother in Greek mythology?

 

There were some weird things in the latest episode. Like... opposite the direction the old EU was taking:

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Delta Squad has completely drunk the coolaid and is imposing the Empire's new scheme. I thought that was my imagination it was them, until I came online and saw yup, that was really them. I assume their inhibitor chips work then?

And the Kaminoan scientist is a) noble and b) gets away alive. What must Karen Traviss be thinking? This is seriously Opposite Day in so many ways.

Well then this leaves us with the unfortunate inference that Kanan was something of a Zeus..........

 

makes sense. Empire wants quantity over quality

recruit 200 million in a week then a 4-6 week basis training course then out u go to oppress the Galaxy

I like it when it goes in a opposite direction makes canon more distinct from legends

 

Karen Traviss is probably in full Alan Moore mode these days when it comes to Star Wars.

 

I hope most canon works goes in opesite direction then legends, did.

 

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she must be spinning, um on her chair I guess. Remember when she left star wars over tcw mandos?

 

I wonder how many recruits they already got troughout the galaxy now, 1-2 millions?

 

It depends on the size of the galaxy. If the Core worlds have populations similar to earth they could have upwards of 20 million (say 2 million from 10 worlds)

Well for the Sequel it kind of did, Chewie alive when everyone else is dead, action hero saves the day.

I do like that they are (mostly) showing the Empire as bad though.

 

Yeah but she's not a Wizard.....Yet.

Funny enough I would say they have brought some of her lore back when it come to Mandalorians it just doesn't come of as well....As overly praising of them.

 

Mmmm I don't see it that way Jid. It's more complicated than that. I'm not going down a Karen (heh) vs the Disneyverse debate, but I brought up those two examples for different reasons:

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If you read her books Jid, you'll find she's pretty negative toward aliens. She never came out in an interview saying she disliked them, and fans don't point it out much, but I found it annoying because the aliens are my favorite part of Star Wars. Regarding the Kaminoans, she absolutely hated them. She wrote them as villains across the board using humans as slaves and for profit. There was a female Kaminoan scientist in particular she used as the major heartless nemesis, who resembles Nala Se in many ways. Except Nala Se proves not all Kaminoans are so bad.

As for Delta, they were the beacon of independent thinking in Traviss's books. She never got to Imperial Commando but it seemed they were headed for an inevitable split with the Empire so they could join the Mandos. That's about as far as you can get from what's happening in Bad Batch. And the Mandos don't even act anything similar. I doubt most clones besides Boba care what a Mandalore is.

 

Well everything i've heard about Karen was that she had...quite interesting takes on Star Wars to say the least.

Many I don't think I would agree with but interesting.

 

The Empire being shown as the true evil is good, makes us feel bad for all their victims.

 

Once again in this episode (War-Mantle) we have a character referred to as an "old friend" despite never having met on-screen prior. Not really a problem, but it makes the surprising lack of clone content in TCW more noticeable when so much set-up happens off-screen.