Saga The “problem” facing Star Wars

You don’t know that Yoda wasn’t watching Luke in his sleep with his saber ready

 

I was joking about Yoda. But i don’t think it’s unreasonable for Luke to do that. He wasn’t creeping into Ben’s room every night thinking about murdering him. The movie presents it as Luke is concerned enough to look into his mind one night and the horror of seeing a vision of Kylo Ren killing his loved ones causes him to act

 

Many of us older SW fans(gen x here), still believe that there was plenty of source material in the old EU(legends) to make movies and tv shows from. Already told stories and an openness to original storylines. Had they canonized the 200 or so books I have, we wouldn't be talking about Luke like he could murder a child in his sleep. That is one of the most inconsistent part of the sequels. Disney has changed how we view some characters. Don't get me wrong, I am a fan of Bad Batch, OWK, TCW, Mando and Boba. These were great additions to the universe. Not so much a fan of Solo or R1 because I feel they disrupt the continuity of an already existing storyline. This is the greatest epic saga of all time and I just hope Disney doesn't "alter it further." I would like to see them include more of the EU(the way these esteemed authors wrote it.)

 

Some EU stories also changed our perception of the characters. When authors write their original stories based on Star Wars they will have varying interpretations and ideas about the characters and where the story goes. Rather than trying to keep a strict EU canon, where every conflicting story set between ANH and ESB is in a timeline and every story about what happened after RotJ needs to match, they should just let each authors stories be as self contained or connected as they want them to be, no canon outside the original six.

 

Knowing that Disney/LFL had both a vast library of EU stories to adapt from and George Lucas's story treatments and chose neither (apart from some slight resemblances) is one of the most maddening parts of the ST to me. It would be one thing if they came up with a brilliant original story, but to see the floundering, uninspired mess that resulted is... just... I have no words.

I am hoping they take advantage of the pre-TPM EU stories when they finally tell Old Republic stories: the Rakata, the Hyperspace War, the Sith War, Darth Revan, Nomi Sunrider, Exar Kun etc. They have a solid road map at their fingertips and I really hope they use it instead of just making things up as they go along.

 

It doesn't look like Disney is interested in adapting anything. Maybe they'll add EU stuff here and there, remade to fit their own canon, but they seem way more interested in capitalizing on making new stuff from the ground up, even if it is heavily coated with nostalgia.

 

I would love to see "the Lost Tribe of the Sith" made into a (way back) movie and then be able to bring characters into sequel era from the lost tribe to interact with a new Jedi order. There was never anything wrong with the stories they(Disney) discarded and distanced themselves from. I felt like the EU was very cohesive. Rogue Planet and Outbound Flight being prequel Era but then tying in with the Yuuzhan Vong way after dealing with the Empirial remnant all very cohesive. Why, oh why did they(Disney) not just bring to life the masterful pages of the EU. From Dawn of the Jedi:Into the Void all the way to Troy Denning's Crucible, every book was a chapter in an ongoing overall story of the universe far, far away

 

From what we have seen in movies and tv shows animation and live action, they take inspiration from EU, but make original content.

 

This.

Also, does anyone remember why the original title of Return of the Jedi was changed from Revenge of the Jedi before 1983? The main reason was that Jedi do not take revenge and should not be aggressors.

 

Kylo's memmories and not Luke's so that not how it happenned, and you forgot he almost killed his father.

 

No your are not,i never took that scene seriously. Its like the animated shows that go over board when does scary stories and flashbacks and later is revealed to be just smoke screen.

 

Rey should be willing to take this new information seriously, she hasn’t seen the original trilogy and thus her preconception of Luke isn’t backed by fact. She doesn’t immediately believe, she runs to Luke to ask him for the truth. And besides there’s no doubt over what happened in the room, Luke admits it. The only part that reflects Kylo’s bias is Luke’s exaggerated scary visage representing the murderous intent.

 

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Not really original if they are using the EU(Legends) as "inspiration." They're kinda just changing names and doing alterations to existing storylines.

example: Korriban=Exegol

Really? Just use the name it was given. Doesn't make it worse or better, just confusing. Basically Disney is changing the vision of the sacred texts and trying to change how we feel about the OT(and OT characters)

 

When does he blame Luke for his being anything? Snoke had apparently already turned him.

 

Korriban is now Moriband, changed by George Lucas. So not Disney. Exegol is a whole another planet and part of the sith lore now. Disney if they like should change the secret text. And OT is always changing eith Prequels, Clone Wars, Rebels, Solo/Rogue One.

 

Pulling some things here and there and changing names isn't really making it unoriginal. Even Lucas did that with the EU when making the PT. But making their own characters, planets, lore, etc. gives them room to do what they want and can be used to create intrigue, because it's all in a new canon (ie, who are Rey's parents?)

 

He doesn’t tell her he turned to the dark side because of Luke. Doesn’t blame Luke for him being a monster, he’s just trying to claim that Luke is no better than him, or worse than Rey thinks.

The movie definitely doesn’t intend the audience to demonize Luke if he’s supposed to be a heroic figure at the end

 

EU is gone but dosent mean they cant pull from it.