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Scott McSideways pass isn't capable of doing what ETH wants in midfield.
Fred probably could but he was played as basically a DM today which he's not good at.
VDB & Garner are better

Maguire can't magically gain pace

If he can't get them to do what he wants then it's up to the club to get him players that will.
Ideally before we're miles behind in the table

 

No Maguire can't gain pace but his positional play up till last season was good and with good positioning and ability to read the game covers for that lack of pace. I would question the coaching that means he's lost that defensive nous he did have.

McTominey is probably better as a defender (he certainly is for Scotland)
Fred should be further forward I agree but this is where the need for that DM is noted (for 3 years)

VDB is better further forwards and Garner needs another season on loan (and also isn't a DM)

The chase for De Jong is ridiculous as even he isn't a DM (although he's more of one that what you have right now). You would be far better going for Neves or Tielemans (or both) AND a striker.

 

Well United may get Marko Arnautovich which would solve all their problems.

 

Have to correct you on one point, Burt, FDJ is a DM. In that electric 18-19 Ajax squad he was usually in the left DM slot, and he can actually do a decent job as a CB in a pinch. It’s Barcelona who have tried to reengineer him into more of an attacking role, with sometimes great results. He’s probably one of the more flexible MFs in the world.

Now, should ManU be wasting so much time, effort, and potentially money on him? Comedy rules of thumb say “god yes.”

 

I've always seen him as more of a playmaker. A Carrick sort of player, Carrick was never really that destroyer sort of DM, he was more into a perfect challenge and distribution. United need a player who can destroy opposition attacks and impose themselves in the midfield right now considering the fragility of their defence. Neves/Tielemans are perfect for that role, I don't personally see FDJ in that role.

On the basis he's extremely versatile may explain why there is a difference in perception on his role. He is a bloody good midfielder and I understand why United are after him but, the continued chasing is just utterly lol

 

But it likely fits a more Carrick type of player than a more aggressive physical type of DM

Plenty of good DMs, but if they can't do what ETH wants he won't approve them.
I think honestly he's had limited scouting time because the scouting team had been working under Rangnick and looking at what he liked. ETH didn't like any of Ragnick's choices which meant they had to start over in May
Now prices are high because they waited too long

Sangare plays in the dutch league so you'd think ETH knows him well enough.
So he may know he's not right for the system he's creating

 

Timo Werner is a great player totally unsuited for the premier league. Or at least unsuited for Chelsea in the premier league.

His link up play is good and if played as an out and out forward he can be devastating (see goal return at RB Leipzig).

Would have been a good signing for Newcastle to support their up and coming status, the Hammers could have used him effectively and dare I say would have been a solid forward option for the United side of Manchester provided he was played as a forward and not a wide player.

 

Seems we'd rather sign Arnautovic
For some reason

 

I'd say "Somehow I think Rabiot will not get an Mbappé-esque dream package from his mother's negotiations" although this is United we're talking about.

 

Rabiot and Arnautovic?

Absolute lols

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What's the deal with Rabiot? I'm not familiar with him or his antics and I feel like I'm missing out.

 

He's one of those guys with a lot of miscellaneous "discipline issues" that read a lot like being really full of himself. Missing practices, complaining about managerial decisions, dropping out of France's reserves out of spite for not being first team, etc. etc.

Luckily ManU don't already have a bunch of prima donnas or there could be ahahahahahahaha

 

I think Man Utd should sign him immediately. Really take the banter club title away from Arsenal.

 

Which means Man U will probably do it.

Right, he's actually been adapted by Barca to a position that was not really his original / main one.

 

The new CB for Manchester Untied is short, too short for a PL CB, really. Is it possible the intention is to use him as a DM, and they just could not at the weekend for whatever reason?

if the intention is to use him and Maguire as the CB pair, that is 140 quids worth of lols.

 

Plenty of the great all-time CBs were under 6ft.
Both Timber & Martinez are & they played ETH's system very well

If United want an actual CDM they could have bought one for much less than £55mil

Martinez & Varane would be a good pairing, but Maguire won't be dropped despite his obvious limitations

No interest in Rabiot, though he is cheap & better than what we currently have in midfield.
Him and De Jong might be quite good, but Rabiot + Fred or McTominay isn't going to succeed

 

It's not long-term though

It's another Falcao, Ighalo, Cavani signing

Sesko is a promising striker with long-term potential, I'd rather sign him.
Plus he doesn't have controversy hanging over him as far as I know

 

Sesko is off to Leipzig

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