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Discussion in 'Literature' started by Gruntz, Aug 6, 2018.

  1. Mara Jade when she was the Emperor Hand was trained under the teachings of the Potentium when Mara worked for the Empire she was not Sith, Dark Jedi or Jedi just like when Palpatine said when he introduced Mara to Darth Vader she was just an Experiment

    I like Disney Sequels Movies but for me that Movies in Legends could be Imperial propaganda created during the New Republic Era made by Imperial Remnants a Story where a Palpatine defeats the Sith Emperor and becomes the hero of the Galaxy and becomes a Skywalker Jay Garrick Flash was just a Comic Book in Barry Allen Flash World so why not?

    Dash Rendar is a Solo in Legends
     
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  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    The Antemeridian Sector remained quietly independent of the Empire and New Republic for decades.

    Gyndine was an Imperial fortress world until after the Imperial Skirmishes of 17 ABY, at which point it joined the New Republic.

    Orinda was an Imperial fortress world in New Republic space even after 17 ABY.

    Leia was convinced to pursue the Chancellorship again in 20 ABY because of the Empire of the Hand being revealed to her by Luke and Mara.
     
  3. The Virus where Palpatine is infected in Darth Vader and the Ghost Prison Comics comes from the same Virus developed and created by Darth Tenebrous and his Master maybe that Virus not only affects the Jedi but all Force Users

    Legends Luke met New Canon Luke in the Netherworld of the Force i would like to think that the Netherworld of the Force is a place where the limits of Space and Time are broken so any Character from different Universes can meet in the Netherworld of the Force both Luke Skywalkers talked about their different experiences New Canon Luke told Legends Luke that Palpatine Returned more later that in Legends Luke Universe and that he feels guilty about the situation of Kylo Ren but Legends Luke gave him encouragement

    TCW is Republic Propaganda in Legends since in Revenge of the Sith Novel Anakin and Obi Wan are famous for the HoloShows and the whole Galaxy knows about their Adventures those Shows can be exaggerated telling a Different Story than the True Events the Multimedia Project can be considered a HoloShow or Propaganda in the New Canon too maybe all the EU can be New Republic Propaganda with a Luke Skywalker Very Powerful while Mandoverse Luke and Disney ST Luke is the True Version of Luke maybe in Legends all New Canon Shows and Movies are HoloShows or Propaganda too but i would like to think that instead of HoloShows or Propaganda Legends and New Canon are just Different Versions of the Events but in Different Universes
     
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  4. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Darth Drear was a Dark Councillor, and so was Darth Scabrous.
     
  5. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    Darth Nihilus is the Exile.

    When the Exile-to-be felt the wound in the Force caused by Bao-Dur’s Mass Shadow Generator, she unconsciously cut herself off from the Force to avoid being consumed by the despair. That part of her that could naturally touch the Force still remained, divided from her true self—it thrived on the deaths at Malachor V and grew from spectral to corporeal form, feeding on life that it did not have. “He” was anointed a Dark Lord of the Sith by Darth Traya, although she was aware that “his” true identity was not one contained within normal definitions of the Sith Order, but she thought him an important ally.

    The defeat of Darth Nihilus at the Battle of Telos was actually the reintegration of the Exile with her shadow, which gave her the ability to confront Darths Sion and Traya later on at Malachor V.

    In a way, this makes Visas Marr the only other “true” apprentice of the Exile in addition to her padawan Mical, outside of the other four Lost Jedi. Visas did not continue the legacy of the Sith Triumvirate, however, having repented and becoming a founding member of Bastila Shan’s Jedi Order after 3951BBY.
     
  6. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    This... works.

    REALLY well, @Golbolco.

    Darth Nihilus as the Exile's shadow, or even dark half...

    Didn't Dark Revan possess Revan's armour, while his 'light' inclination floated off?
     
  7. I have a Theory that Lucien Draay could be Darth Nihilus since Lucien has a connection to the Miraluka maybe Visas Marr reminded him Nihilus/Lucien to Q'Anilia but i prefer to believe that Nihilus was just a Random Jedi or Force User that wasnt special until that event in the Mandalorian Wars but well everyone has their Headcanon some say that Lucien Draay could be Darth Sion but for me Darth Sion is the Jedi Knight Dray from the Short Story of Tales of the Jedi Light and Shadow its curious that both Characters that can be Sion are both called Dray or Draay but they are different Characters
     
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  8. Golbolco

    Golbolco Jedi Master star 3

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    You know, I completely forgot about Revan splitting in half and now I feel like a hack. Oh well, I like mine better.

    I like the Dray/Draay connection. One of my preferred headcanon games is finding connections based on names that are really similar. Solo/Suul, Wexley/Wessiri, Fel/Felth... Kane/Kaine? :D

    I wonder why JJM didn't commit to the Lucien Draay=Sion thing, it's even referenced multiple times in the comic and feels a bit contrived in that regard. Was there something from the editorial warning him against it?
     
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  9. RogueWhistler

    RogueWhistler Jedi Knight star 3

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    I'm pretty sure this was a popular fan theory around the time of the game's release, so in a way it came before the Revan split.
     
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  10. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Historically, the galaxy does inuniverse not look as much to the time before or during the Dark Ages of the NSW, viewing it as a major reset and reformation afterwards. But like with antiquity, they know of previous golden ages and cultures of course and those extending back to the ages of myth and heroics like demigods and gods. Longer lived species may hold more value to remembering them and their influence than the shortlived ones like humanity, which though is all over the lifespan spectrum depending on lifestyle, Forcesensitivity and surrounding environmental conditions. Some human cultures age like on Earth, others with or without med-technological assistance can reach the 400s. (PS: What do people inuniverse think of that, if at all? Are they aware? Are most unaware of the possibility? Does it lead to travel streams to locations or cultures with the possibility to enhance life in better conditions, if affordeable?)
    Culturally though, while relevant, these earlier times are maybe less relevant except for some societies. With the Dark Ages resetting a lot, entities and borders of previous nations outside or inside the republic may be very different from those today despite linguistically uniting regions sharing etymological and linguistic roots based on those to this day.

    Now to the headcanon after this preface: New nations boarders post ROTJ, pre PT during High Republic before the expansion into the Outer Rims, etc. may stem less from pre-NSW nations post TOR MMO but rather during the late NSW when freed regions united before rejoining the Republic. Kerra Holts time of Knights Errant saw the formation of these subdomains, first amongst Sith, then as freed regions. Upon the Ruusan Reformations, how many were there? How many opted to rejoin instantly the Republic, and how many did not or were out of touch despite the Sith gone, given Boss, Holonet, communications and hyperlane maintenance was all down for centuries if not a millennium.

    In light of these recent late High Republic ear only additions to the Republic, and post Ruusan wars like Jedi-Mando one, with probably an enlarged Mando sphere post NSW taking on the Rim unprotected by the Jedi at first, how different do we view the Ruusan Reformations?

    Initially they looked like a new golden age, peace, war is over and the Republic reborn, rejoined, time reset, but now... the Republic was tiny when it declared peace, mobup operations in place for centuries to come. The Republic returning to the Rim, reestablishing hyperlanes, communication and holonet, etc. all taking 600 years. Let alone solidifying these and stabilizing and securing all that instead of just connecting it.

    How long were the NSW as wild and disconnected as the Knight Errant time anyway? Few centuries I think, before that it was like the TOR MMO, they did not dare to shut it down, but the war was endless, then they turned all off and gained the upper hand in the Core at the cost of the Rims with centuries for the Rims to unite into kingdoms and crumble one by one freed to force the remaining Sith to re-unite and place all on Lord Kaan and his Brotherhood with its final stand.
     
  11. In the EU/Legends Universe the Chosen One was the Skywalker Family Luke Skywalker, Jacen Solo, Anakin Solo, Jaina Solo, Ben Skywalker or Cade Skywalker could be the the Chosen Ones but i prefer Luke Skywalker to be the Chosen One in EU/Legends but for me the Prophecy can be interpreted in many different ways
     
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  12. Kadar Ordo

    Kadar Ordo Jedi Knight star 2

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    Ap'lek is a Chiss and a former (rejected?) member of the Sky-walker corps (hence the style of his name).
     
  13. Foreign32567

    Foreign32567 Jedi Master star 4

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    Confederacy of Corporate Systems was created by members of the Commerce Guild that rebelled against the Imperial control after Endor, with some preceding help from Crimson Dawn's agents.
     
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  14. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Oooooh.
     
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  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    The Sith Eternal went into hiding on Exegol when open Sith rule of the galaxy ended.
     
  16. YoungSmitty2

    YoungSmitty2 Jedi Knight star 1

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    My way of bringing "Old Wounds", elements of TCW and Rebels, and the Vader v. Maul fight into one continuity.

    Maul survived the duel on Naboo in Legends and was found earlier by a scrapper in the bowels of Lotho Minor. He escaped and fled into hyperspace, insane from his defeat at the hands of Obi-Wan. Somehow, whether by instinct or the dark side prodding at Maul's muddied mind, the ship he stole managed to crash-land on Dathomir where he was found and restored back to his normal self by Mother Talzin and her clan of Nightsisters, who are reclusive to their part of the world (the equivalent of Dathomir's Shadowlands) and keep to their own affairs. However, Maul chose to eliminate Talzin and her clan right then and there, years of indoctrination from Sidious's tutelage reminding him of the threat the witch poses to the Grand Plan. Talzin screamed some statements about how Maul was a "Son of Dathomir" and of Talzin's own blood, but Maul didn't care enough to have Talzin confirm these statements. He killed the witch and her clan before returning to the home of his one true master: Sidious.

    He arrives around the time of AOTC's plot and, while Palpatine is bogged down by the Senate and the military creation act vote, investigates The Works in his absence. To his horror, he finds that Sidious has replaced him with a new apprentice, the master of the Jedi he killed on Naboo. Sidious would later arrive and beat down his mad apprentice, telling him that he has been a tool this entire time, nothing more, nothing less. As much as he hates Sidious, he cannot bring himself to disprove his master's words and begs him to kill him. Sidious merely laughs, saying that he still has usage for a weapon like Maul.

    And so, it is because of Sidious's wishes that Maul pursues Obi-Wan to Kamino (as stated in the Old Wounds comic) as Sidious has learned of the Jedi discovering a trace to the planet Kamino and doesn't want the clone army revealed yet. Due to the slowness of the freighter he has, Maul misses Obi-Wan by 2 days on Kamino. When he arrives on Geonosis, the clone army has already beaten him to the punch and Obi-Wan is gone. He contacts Sidious to inform the Dark Lord of his failure and Sidious tells him to go to the planet Ruul; there, he will find his punishment.

    When he arrives, he realizes what Sidious had planned for him. Count Dooku, secretly the Sith Lord Darth Tyranus, is waiting for him and challenges Maul to a duel. Maul accepts and is utterly thrashed by the older and more seasoned warrior, who laughs and tells him that he put up a better fight against Qui-Gon and his padawan ten years ago: "You should have stayed dead, beast. At least then, you could have spared yourself the mockery of this fight."

    Maul is blasted by Force Lightning, stabbed and slashed by Dooku multiple times, and buried alive under an avalanche... yet he still survives. Kept alive by his hate, the one thing that would never leave him. Dooku believes Maul is dead and leaves, managing to scoop up some DNA samples of the Zabrak for his master, who wishes to experiment with the blood of Force-sensitive beings for unknown purposes. Sometime later, Maul pulls himself out of the ruins and flees into the Outer Rim.

    While the Clone Wars ravage the galaxy, Maul licked his wounds and plots revenge from the shadows. He would try to find ways to undermine his master and Dooku's operations, while also targeting and killing Jedi far away from the public's eye, making sure to leave no trace of his survival evident for Sidious to pick up. He even tries to forge an alliance with the Mandalorians, but stops when he learns that they're in cahoots with the CIS. In 19 BBY, Order 66 goes down and Maul feels the dark side roar in triumph as the spark of the Jedi is snuffed out. Throwing caution to the wind, he travels to Coruscant and dispatches probe droids into the Jedi Temple while his master completes the Sith's Grand Plan of creating a Galactic Empire.

    And then his probes pick up a Jedi wandering in the Temple's ruins: Obi-Wan Kenobi.

    Maul beelines to the Temple, only to realize that Kenobi is already gone. Luckily, his probe droid comms in that Kenobi is stowing aboard a ship heading straight for Mustafar and sets off to intercept. But as he gets closer to the freighter, he is fired upon by Imperial starfighters and is forced to evade them for a few minutes before jumping after the yacht. But it is already too late; yet again, Maul misses Obi-Wan and finds a charred corpse that he feared could've been him, until he sensed that it wasn't. Sidious then arrives and he books it out of there.

    Maul wallows in misery over failing to catch Kenobi again and for being abandoned by his master, and takes to the criminal underworld. As the galaxy cleans itself up, Maul lets loose his rage upon crime syndicates and bounty hunters that seek to claim his head for the weapon he wields. He's sure Sidious's agents have picked him up, but at this point, he doesn't care. He wants blood.

    Two years into the Dark Times, Maul picks up rumors of a sighting of Obi-Wan in some Outer Rim asteroid field called Polis Massa and heads that way, with Palpatine's agent (Kinman Doriana) following behind him. When he arrives, it doesn't take long for him to torture the mute aliens into revealing the truth; Kenobi had shown up some time ago, but to stop the Empire from finding... them. He finds a hidden cache of medical logs where a woman--the former queen of Naboo--gave birth to two children: later logs would show recordings of Kenobi talking to a bearded man and a small green alien--the Jedi's grandmaster and his master's greatest adversary--about hiding the children of Anakin... Anakin Skywalker, Maul realizes. Kinman also tries to get this information back to his master, but Maul notices the shadowy spy and eliminates him with extreme violence.

    Maul then learns that the bearded man is Bail Organa, senator of Alderaan, and travels to the planet to pry information of Kenobi's location out of the senator. However, while attempting to infiltrate the royal palace, he is thwarted by two Jedi survivors--Ferus Olin and Ylenic It'kla. The two warriors combined are an even match for the former Sith, but Ferus was able to pry into Maul's mad mind to find out what he was looking for; Obi-Wan. Realizing this, Ferus makes Maul an offer: the location of Kenobi, in exchange for sparing their lives and (inadvertently) the life of Leia Organa. Maul accepts and leaves, stating that he'll be back with Kenobi's head to finish what he started.

    Ferus wonders if he made the right call, but Ylenic assures him that a wild animal is at its weakest when attacking others in a blind rage.

    Maul returns to Tatooine, fifteen years after his first exodus on the desert world's surface, and makes his way into Mos Espa. He questions many people about the name 'Skywalker' before an old Toydarian junk dealer mentions how he used to have a slave family unit that went by the surname Skywalker. But the son left as a child and the mother was sold off to some moisture farmers long ago. Maul tortures Watto for the names of the people who bought the woman before the old bird squawks out the name: Lars.

    He separates Watto's head from his body and goes to draw Obi-Wan out... who is already waiting patiently in the dune seas, having been alerted by Ferus Olin about Maul's coming. And when Maul arrives, an old wound of Obi-Wan's is re-opened and then finally healed for good.

    As for the clone of Maul? Well, when Dooku took that DNA sample of Maul on Ruul, Palpatine was quite adamant about creating cloned warriors to serve his bidding. What better candidate than his former apprentice that served his every last word? Unfortunately, the hate that Maul's essence carried drove the clones mad and Sidious closed up shop on that idea quickly... but kept the idea of other cloned Force-sensitives as an idea for another day.

    It wouldn't be until near the events of ANH that Palpatine, growing annoyed with Vader's performance in failing to stop the rebels from stealing schematics to the DS1 and his mistakes with the Starkiller clone, tosses out the last remaining samples of Maul's DNA to Kadann, who leaks it to a rogue branch of the Church of the Dark Side to eliminate them and secure his power. The cultists are able to use archaic sorcery to bring the Maul clone to life and under their thumb, though it took time and many members' lives to make sure that the clone was kept under wraps. They managed to succeed by the time Vader comes a-knockin' and things go from there as one would expect.
     
  17. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Singing Mountain is a relative of Crying Mountain.
     
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  18. QuinlanSolo

    QuinlanSolo Jedi Knight star 1

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  19. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    The marauders from the Ewok movies, who are not named in the movies themselves, are actually Grysks who crash-landed on the forest moon.

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    Their descriptions match up rather closely, and they remain mysterious in origin in the movies themselves, from what I know.
     
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  20. clonegeek

    clonegeek Jedi Knight star 3

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    They are Sanyassan though
     
  21. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    That name was only given to them by later sources, an article in 2002 and then other EU sources afterward. The Grysks aren’t even part of the same continuity, and these villains had no name until then. So I’m enjoying the headcanon that this is them. The description is very similar, and this ties the Grysks to some aspect of Star Wars visual media.

    Consider how the Marauders look and how they’re described:

    “The marauders have greasy, thick strands of hair - usually pale, sometimes dark - sprouting from the crown of their flat heads…occasionally from the skin on their faces. Heavy, protective brow ridges, thrust like hoods over glittering eyes…pug nose-holes give the marauders a skull-like appearance.”​

    And here is a description of the Grysks:

    “Holding his holoprojector in front of him, he pulled up an image of a wide-shouldered creature with angled brow ridges, a tapered skull, and deep-set eyes.”​

    Granted, that could apply to many aliens. But I just think it’d be a cool link between two similar looking marauder species of unknown origin.
     
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  22. Irredeemable Fanboy

    Irredeemable Fanboy Jedi Master star 4

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    Or maybe the Sanyassan and the Grysk are related.
     
  23. Noash_Retrac

    Noash_Retrac Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Or the Grysk are a servant race of the Far Outsiders or they originated from the same galaxy, perhaps the true cause of the Yuuzhan Vong exodus and not because they destroyed all their worlds?
     
  24. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    The Yuuzhan Vong are no species anymore... they are a conglomerate of bio-assimilated species collectively known as Yuuzhan Vong. That explains the different depictions, some more alien, dark elfish, others with white eyes or normal eyes. different ridges and bone structures, more or less skeletal even. They crossbred, they shaped and enhanced themselves across species into Bio-Borg kinda. The slave races are those that are still pure, like the Chazrach, the Vong themselves at the core are a species from Sekot, but too shaped to be uniform anymore with several subspecies perhaps like we had with Arkanians and others likewise.

    Grysk can be a slave race, a subspecies. Sanyassans might be related even or evolved form of Vong trapped in the galaxy during KOTOR times, the same that brought Voduun Crabs to a planet in the far reaches of the Outer Rim's Wild Space as per High Republic.



    And now for something rather dark... a headcanon as the above could even be fact from a certain point of view:

    The Yuuzhan Vong are at their core humans. From Earth in the Milky Way galaxy. Sekot is nothing other than Gaia, the living spirit of Earth as per esoteric Gaia hypothesis. But when the dark future of THX-1138 gave control to machines, the galaxy and human colonies were soon enslaved by Abominations of their own technology, the Abominor (aka Skynet, Terminator). As per Alien Exodus, someone managed to escape and flee to the past in a galaxy far, far away, Cosmo Hender, etc. bringing humanity to the GFFA to escape the THX dark future.

    Now in the GFFA, as per Alien Exodus and LFL Alien Chronicles, humanity evolved and grew (details see my other headcanons and posts about this process). The Silentium aka Vuffi Ra's race engage the Abominor in the Milky Way. Their war will wreck the galaxy and Earth/Sekot/Yuzzhan'tar. Yuzzhan'tar is described with an asteroid ring around the planet (a destroyed moon?).
    While the Silentium freed the planet and Vong from the Abominor enslavement at great cost and collateral damage, the Vong learned to use biotechnology form that point on and became conquerors themselves taking the fight to Abominor holdouts elsewhere but also did not stop to cleanse their galaxy of the Silentium as they now defied all technology.
    Few Abominor and Silentium returned to the GFFA only escaping their wrath. And few Vong scouts followed during KOTOR times.

    Now when the E.T species left the GFFA for Milky Way and Earth, the planet was neither destroyed, got its moon still, but that is because by that point, timetravel shenangians had reset the timeline there. John Connor kinda saved the Terminator-verse and prevented it as well as several factors assisted in saving Earth and humanity from its THX/Terminator future. Those were the arrival of GFFA citizens in the Milky Way long after the Vong invasion, among them the E.T. species as well as GFFA colonies on Kobol etc. trying to return to and find mythical Earth, the true origin of humanity (Battlestar Galactica). While John Connor had managed to temporarily reset Earth and postpone the Abominor rise via Skynet, future Terminator-Abominors went spaceborn and rebranded as Cylons to find and retake Earth as well. Other loop iterations saw the technobeasts evolve not into Cylones or Terminators but Star Trek's Borg. What will the final loop look like?

    But after many iterstions and humanity fleeing to the GFFA and back, the devolved humans aka Vong invading the GFFA and being redeemed, and GFFA droid sentience bringing about the Silentium one day to end their dark counterparts in every galaxy, what is next?

    PS: Did I mention that the Kobol colonies in one iteration also got involved with a parasitic race of Goa'uld that wrecked havoc and enslaved earth via Stargates and Hypergates?
     
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  25. MercenaryAce

    MercenaryAce Chosen One star 6

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    Isn't the Grysk's whole thing about how they are master political manipulators?

    And the marauders are too dumb to understand how their own technology works?

    Doesn't seem like a great match to me.