Amph Agents of SHIELD Discussion Thread (and Slingshot)

Man, you guys are crueler than most fanfic writers.

 

Wait, wait, go slower, everyone, I'm taking notes for inspiration ...

 

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If Deke is erased then shouldn't everyone who came back from the future be erased too?

 

Yeah...

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I like that they intentionally left it vague with Deke -- since he said he was leaving, it could be he left or it could be he blinked out of existence... we don't know...

 

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time travel stories almost always end up not making sense, but in the case of Deke the version of the future that he was born from and grew up in never existed, we don't even know if his parents will meet, whereas the team was just passing through.

 

I think they threw us a bone earlier in the season -- in the same episode everyone went back in time, the stinger were the people in the future planning on rebuilding the Earth... so like a multiversal theory.

So changing the future doesn't necessarily change that future... and all that implies...

 

I noticed that with Deke too but it is really too ambiguous to say what really happened. Time travel is never simple.

They left the series on a good ending with that as a finale had they not been given another season. At the same time it leaves open the door for next season.

 

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If Deke had disappeared, then dead Fitz's body should have disappeared too. Since he's also from the future and present Fitz is in space with Enoch.

 

To be fair, they waited until the last moment. But if you're curious as to what was going to happen next, if you don't already know, go to Youtube and look up the lost ending.

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Why would they? They were pulled to the future and returned. They weren't born in the future like Deke was.

 

So Coulson is dead because AIDA knew who Ghost Rider was when Robbie showed up and she kept running away, correct? It's all her fault!!!

 

If it weren't for those Thanos references, this is how I expected the season finale end, as the showrunners of the show said as much. That being a series finale. I expected Coulson to die with May at his side, and Daisy to continue as an Agent of SHIELD. I didn't expect Mack to take the leadership role, but it makes total sense as he has the same moral compass as Steve Rogers.

I thought Fitz-Simmons would have left for the lake and retire from duty.

I still expect a time jump for season six and a new roster.

 

Lame question alert: Upon rewatch, in the beginning consultation/confrontation scene about what to do next, YoYo mourns because May shatters a vial of … what?

 

Not at all a lame question. As soon as May broke that vial all over the floor I immediately rewound the scene but I still couldn't tell.

 

yah the YoYo freaks out over vial shattered didn't exactly play as devastatingly for me either cuz I don't think it was established well enough in the scene, they were already yelling about it. But May smashing vial = she chooses to save Coulson instead of taking out Gravitron. Which devastated YoYo cuz she thought that meant the world would end. I think. Pretty sure.

 

So the Centipede serum used by Daisy to KO Talbot was plain, and not the concoction using CSerum and whatever came out of Jiaying made by FitzSimmons. That one was smashed by May … but what was the one Daisy told Coulson to take?

 

The vial that was smashed was the ODM which was going to be mixed with the Centipede serum that would save Coulson, but because Daisy takes it with her after the vial was smashed and then decides to use it to enhance her powers, she can change history.

 

Talbot's fate is unsatisfactory to me. The last we see him, icing up as he zooms in a dazed state towards what resembles the moon, is split seconds before Maximus The Mad grabs him before he overshoots and runs out of oxygen from his last earthly breath. Maximus survived Attilan's destruction, figures out a few devices that Black Bolt remained close-mouthed about, and is plotting fruitlessly until joined by someone with an equal Mad At The World attitude. Many bad things happen after this teamup.

Still pondering how Lockjaw will factor in.

 

The SDCC! I just put it together that the Clone Wars reup and a Dreamworks Madagascar: A Little Wild in the offing are timed to … the … SDCC. I am a little slow, to put it kindly.

 

I love Chloe Bennett.

BTW, only tangentially related, but I'm finally watching Twin Peaks for the first time right now (missed when it came out originally in the '90s). Having watched Agents of SHIELD first, it sure is weird seeing Daisy Johnson's father as a very boyish looking young man who's super upbeat and loves his coffee.