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Census Americans, who will you vote for in November 2020, for President?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Apr 10, 2020.

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Americans, who will you vote for in November 2020, for President?

  1. Trump

    6.5%
  2. Biden

    51.6%
  3. Libertarian

    3.2%
  4. Green

    4.0%
  5. Someone Else (who?)

    7.3%
  6. Not Voting

    2.4%
  7. Can’t Vote / Not American

    21.8%
  8. Undecided

    3.2%
  1. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I mean, those aren't the only two alternatives. How can you list the libertarian party candidate and completely forget the green party?
     
  2. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Five Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Because the Green Party is not on the ballot in North Carolina.
     
  3. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I really wish they would get their act together
     
  4. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    I mean... Sarah Palin, probably?
     
  5. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 6

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    I'd vote for the Elder Party before I'd vote for the ****ing libertarian party.
     
  6. harpua

    harpua Chosen One star 9

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    Why not?
     
  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    They're not serious about trying to win, or even getting the 5% of the vote necessary to qualify for Federal funding. None of the third parties are. Ross Perot was the last third party candidate who was in it to win, and it was more him alone than a party. Last third party that actually tried to win downballot (and won a good number of offices) were the Socialists close to the beginning of the 20th century, I think.
     
  8. Lowbacca_1977

    Lowbacca_1977 Force Ghost star 6

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  9. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Five Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I signed a petition in 2008 to get Nader on the ballot although I was planning to vote Obama.
     
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  10. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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    Yeah, I'll generally sign anything that allows more ballot access, and/or vote my preferred Dem candidates on the WFP line here in NYC to keep them above 5%.
     
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  11. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Well the Green Party in RI decided they wouldn't allow the Green Party nominee on the ballot, and backed Biden instead.
     
  12. Rew

    Rew Force Ghost star 5

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    Who the hell even is the Green Party candidate this year?
     
  13. Ezio Skywalker

    Ezio Skywalker Jedi Master star 4

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    There's the argument that Trump didn't win the 2016 election so much as Clinton lost the election. It's the same thing here. Trump always does everything in his power to sabotage himself (like South Park regularly parodied for a while until, I think, it started making them sad :p ). It's an easy win for opponents of Trump, but they somehow always manage to miss the landing.

    Imo, they don't need to attack Trump so much as strengthen themselves. Biden is pretty much running on the message: "Well, hey, I'm not Trump, right?"

    Obama didn't win his historical victory by attacking McCain, iirc. He won by trying to inspire Americans, and by emphasizing his presumed strengths.

    These days, presidential politics are basically:
    Trump: "I kinda' suck but whaddya gonna' do?"
    Biden: "I also suck, but...maybe Trump sucks worse? Idk."
     
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  14. dp4m

    dp4m JCC Playoff Pick 'Em Winner, Also a Narc star 10 VIP - Game Winner

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  15. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

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    I was fairly depressed on Super Tuesday when it was the beginning of the end for Bernie's campaign. I'm voting for Biden come November, but I feel like it's going to be a repeat of 2016.
     
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  16. Rew

    Rew Force Ghost star 5

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    A literally "Who?" then.

    Thankfully my Green Party supporting days are behind me. Not that Biden is at all a great choice, but better than the alternative.
     
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  17. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Five Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I had heard that Jesse Ventura was trying to run as a Green Party candidate, and given that he’s a ****ing climate denier, that would be stupid.

    Could have been a false rumor though.
     
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  18. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    He founded the Green Party

    He said he wasn't going to, then he said he was thinking about it, then he said he'd probably do it, then he decided not to do it.
     
  19. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I mean, Hawkins is genuinely a better person than Biden...don't know why you're celebrating that your Green days are behind you :p
     
  20. Rew

    Rew Force Ghost star 5

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    Still a literal who. :p

    Fair point. I think Jill Stein's anti-science woo ways turned me off to the party. Though the thing about Stein (and presumably Hawkins) is that neither would drone bomb civilians in the Middle East. Probably. Maybe.
     
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  21. Lord Vivec

    Lord Vivec Chosen One star 9

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    I absolutely understand being turned off because of Jill Stein. In fact, I'm pretty sure I was the one here in 2016 saying stuff against her anti-science enabling! However I'd encourage you to at least read up on Hawkins a bit. I haven't myself decided to vote for him. But it's interesting to read about the green party turning from whatever it was under Stein into a cohesive eco-socialist platform under Hawkins.
     
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  22. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    It would be a much closer race if it weren't for COVID-19.
     
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  23. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 7

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    Current thoughts?

    Mixed feelings. It’s historic to have a woman of color on the ticket. But I do not like her record on criminal justice when she was Attorney General, and she tried to have it both ways on the issue of healthcare in the primaries. She tends to go with the polls and say what she thinks certain people want to hear. But she’s not a disqualifying choice, and I might like her as a potential VP more than Biden as a potential President. But no way am I ever voting for Trump/Pence. It’s either Biden/Harris or write-in for me, since I live in Rhode Island and the Electoral College is the reality.

    She doesn't disqualify the Biden ticket (if anything it will be Biden who does that if he hasn't already), but she doesn't strengthen it for me at all.
     
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  24. blackmyron

    blackmyron Chosen One star 6

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    I figured she was the most likely VP pick, so it changes nothing for myself.
     
  25. Rew

    Rew Force Ghost star 5

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    Still voting for Biden on November 3, but now I will be doing so even more reluctantly. Blagh.
     
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