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ANH: Deleted grappling hook scene! (+disclaimer)

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Plo_Koen, Mar 7, 2004.

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  1. Plo_Koen

    Plo_Koen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    DISCLAIMER: This thread has little to do with the thread that I was redirected to: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Classic_Trilogy/b10002/14906065/?120]Definitive list of all changes ever made to the classic trilogy[/link]. In fact, the discussion in that thread is off-topic: We cannot determine if this was *changed*, if we cannot determine if this scene was ever in the movie in the first place. Because little is documented about this scene, we need as many witnesses as possible, and the best way to do so is with a seperate thread with a specific title (which the locked thread has already proven in it's short existence, as it attracted 2 posters who didn't post in the other thread before). This scene is easily the most elusive "deleted scene" in the history of Star Wars, and I think it deserves it's own thread.

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    From the [link=http://www.cedmagic.com/featured/star-wars-lost-footage.html]Compendium of Lost Footage[/link]:

    "People clearly remember seeing the Biggs scenes, but because this has been glimpsed through the novelization, comic adaptation, trading cards, storybook, behind-the-scenes documentary, and radio show, it's possible that memories are mixing together. An entirely different group of people seem to recall seeing Luke at the chasm throw his grappling hook and miss the first time, then throw it again before swinging across with Leia. The above is a conceivable explanation, in my opinion."


    I am one of those people, and now I know I'm not alone.

    I'm well aware that memory can be tricky, and mix things together, but this scene doesn't strike as something that would be used outside of the movie.

    Another explaination this site offers is that some of the original prints may have had additional footage. But I never saw Star Wars before 1980.

    My question: do you remember this scene? if so, when and where (theater, video, TV) did you see it? (by estimation, if necessary ;))


    Update: This scene *is* mentioned in the Star Wars novelization and storybook. However, people seem to remeber Leia giving Luke a dirty look after he misses, which these books don't mention.





    DLM Edit: EV locked your previous thread on this topic. Please don't restart it. If you disagree with his decision, please take it up with him over PM and the issue may be open to being revisited. However, ignoring the mod and making a new thread is not the way to go. Thanks!
     
  2. Kaizer_

    Kaizer_ Jedi Youngling star 2

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    you know, when you mention it, I think I've seen that...
     
  3. Darth_Zidious

    Darth_Zidious Force Ghost star 4

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    Isn't it possible that people are remembering a scene from a different (non Star Wars) movie?
     
  4. Binary_Sunset

    Binary_Sunset Force Ghost star 5

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    I vote for the "tricky memory" explanation. When I read this in the other thread, I thought to myself, "I know where he saw this. It was in the Marvel comics adaptation. I remember seeing it there." So I look in the comic, and it's not there!

    In other words, something I thought was in the comic, wasn't. I think the same thing is happening with people who think they saw this in the movie.
     
  5. Iron_Maiden

    Iron_Maiden Jedi Youngling

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  6. Plo_Koen

    Plo_Koen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Thanks for the replies, people.

    Kaizer_: Are you sure? The memories I have of this scene are older than you are yourself. (late 70's/early 80's)

    Darth_Zidious: Yes, I've seen it happen. But at least we know that this scene existed in text form (novelization and storybook), and now I'm dying to know if it was ever filmed, because so many people seem to have visual memories of this scene.

    Binary_Sunset: Your description is spot on: the defining moment of this memory was not when I (supposedly) saw the scene, but the first time I noticed it was gone, years later.

    So I guess that written words (that I've never read) have turned into vivid images, including facial expressions that were not mentioned in the text. (that I didn't read anyway) :(
     
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