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Are moderators above the rules?

Discussion in 'Communications' started by Ree Yees, Apr 17, 2002.

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  1. Ree Yees

    Ree Yees Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I have noticed several times that posters get flamed by a certain moderator. I do not wish to report this moderator or anything, but wouldn't you think moderators of all people here should be watching their language? This topic is in no way meant to anger or be offensive, just a friendly reminder that you guys must set the examples.

    :)
     
  2. The Bigger Fish

    The Bigger Fish Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    :eek:

    I don't believe you. :p ;) :D

     
  3. Jotun Denal

    Jotun Denal Jedi Grand Master star 6

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  4. Sturm Antilles

    Sturm Antilles Former Manager star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No.




















    Except me. :D
     
  5. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No, moderators are not above the rules, and they are subject to the same punishment or warning should they break them.

    However, vague references and abstract complaints about unnamed violations will not help. If you have specific examples, please provide them. We try hard to make sure the mods abide by the rules, but unless we know what you've seen, there's no way we can approach the subject.

    So, if you could, please provide examples. If you don't feel comfortable posting it publicly, please PM me with the examples. If the mod in question is me, feel free to PM either Commander Antilles or NathanDahlin, or any of the other mods.

    Vertical
     
  6. yodaboy

    yodaboy Jedi Master star 5

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    If you name names, then we can protect you and punish the moderator in question.
     
  7. Ree Yees

    Ree Yees Jedi Youngling star 5

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    I think I need to clarify this topic a little :) I am not talking about severe flaming. More like sarcastic remarks, stinging comments etc. I don't think there's anything wrong with that - except that I think moderators should ... well... moderate themselves a little :) I do understand, however, that one can get excited (I've been banned several times myself). I mentioned this specific incident since I wanted an answer to the topic's question as well. I hope no moderator feels offended by this. I do not wish to give any names either through a topic like this or through PMs because the moderator I had in mind is really a good moderator who has all my respect. I'm not out to "get" someone or anything. Aw...just forget it. Vertical_Limit answered my question. Just let the topic sink to the bottom of the council ocean.
     
  8. Vertical

    Vertical Former Head Admin star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't have any limits! ;)

    Seriously, I agree with the sentiment that mods should avoid 'stinging' comments, as you call them, but if we don't have anything to look at, we can't address the issue with the other mods in general.

    I understand your point in not wanting to name names or get anyone in trouble, but without specifics, this thread won't accomplish anything, really.

    Vertical
     
  9. GIMER

    GIMER Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You forgot to add the polling thingy.


    I vote no.
     
  10. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Personally, I see nothing wrong with a mod coming out with a zinger every now and then. Lord knows everyone else does it and I usually find them funny.

    Please tell me you aren't talking about farraday . . . ;)
     
  11. halibut

    halibut Ex-Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Are mods above the rules? No
    Is farraday above the rules? Farraday makes the rules!
     
  12. Ree Yees

    Ree Yees Jedi Youngling star 5

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    LOL, I thought it was vertical_limit. Sorry, vertical! :)



    Edit: This thread *does* accomplish something, namely a discussion on the fine art of moderating :D
     
  13. Jedi Bib

    Jedi Bib Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    We have rules?
     
  14. Jeremyguy

    Jeremyguy Jedi Padawan star 4

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    He's probably talking about The Gatherer. That guy rules Lit with an iron fist and a wicked tongue. I think he made Genghis12 cry.
     
  15. Padme Bra

    Padme Bra Administrator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I think he might be talking about me. I said that someone's sig was stupid because it said that Star Wars died in May, 1999. But come on. that's a stupid statement. :p

    If you're not talking about outright flaming but rather sarcastic or biting comments, then you should change the title of your thread because you're not talking about mods following the rules. You're suggesting that mods should be held to a higher standard than the regular members to the point of being extra courteous and non-controversial. I agree with that up to a point but come on, we're still regular people. As long as we don't abuse our power or outright break the rules you should cut us some slack and let us be ourselves. We're not customer care representatives and we're not running for office. We're just members who happen to watch over the place.

    So if you see a mod actually flame or swear or something, report it. But don't act like we have to be sweet and friendly all the time. Especially me; I'm basically Chyren's replacement. And you think I'm bad? :eek: :p
     
  16. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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    But it IS a stupid comment :)
     
  17. PreacherBoy

    PreacherBoy Jedi Youngling star 5

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    If you have a problem with how someone posted, the most effective and long-term solution to the problem is talk to them about it.
     
  18. DUSHONI

    DUSHONI Jedi Master star 4

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    I think he's talking about me..oh wait...I'm not a mod...just like to flame (j/k)
     
  19. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Modsquad Discussing the Gatherer:[ul]Nathan: With AotC coming out we need to really be on the watch for trolls. Is EU ready, DL?

    Darth Ludicrous: Yeah, we're all ready. I've been giving the Gatherer pointers on how to be mean. We set him up with a newbie sock and sent him into The EU Senate as a 13-year-old bible-thumper in love with his first-cousin espousing the virtues of American liberalism. Good god, they were animals over there. But, I think the Gatherer learned some things.

    Darth Bane: //snickers.

    //The Modsquad eyes Darth Ludicrous quizically, looks to the Gatherer and snickers.

    The Gatherer: Come on guys, I can be mean! Honest I can! Look, Kadue pretend like your a troll. I'll take you down. //pumps fist in air.

    Kadue: "Look at me, I'm a troll. prances around flailing arms in the air. 4tt4ck of the Clones sucks crap and that Lucas guy sucks crap and these forums suck crap..."

    Darth Ludicrous: ...And Star Wars is a train!

    Kadue: "...And Star Wars is a train!"

    The Gatherer: //Stands up confidently, with chest shoved out and points menacingly at Kadue. Stop troll... You... Y... //puts head in hands and starts sobbing. Alright, I can't do it! I can't be mean![/ul]
     
  20. Obi-Zahn Kenobi

    Obi-Zahn Kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    LOL GENGHIS!!! That's hilarious!

    [blockquote] No, moderators are not above the rules, and they are subject to the same punishment or warning should they break them.

    However, vague references and abstract complaints about unnamed violations will not help. If you have specific examples, please provide them. We try hard to make sure the mods abide by the rules, but unless we know what you've seen, there's no way we can approach the subject.

    So, if you could, please provide examples. If you don't feel comfortable posting it publicly, please PM me with the examples. If the mod in question is me, feel free to PM either Commander Antilles or NathanDahlin, or any of the other mods.

    Vertical

    [/blockquote]

    That's completely right. Proof is that farraday locked one of Vertical's thread for being spam.
     
  21. ReaperFett

    ReaperFett Jedi Knight star 6

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  22. Spike_Spiegal

    Spike_Spiegal Jedi Youngling star 5

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  23. EagleIFilms

    EagleIFilms Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    HEY!

    How'd you get access to the Modsquad?
     
  24. toochilled

    toochilled Jedi Knight star 5

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    Vert,

    Great. I hope you keep this policy up since, as we all know way too well, it has been issues relating to preferential and derogatory treatment which have caused a good 90% of JC problems in the 18months since I have been here.

    Kudos, I hope you stick to your word.
     
  25. Lobot_Omy

    Lobot_Omy Moderator Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    But I thought we were above the rules! Wasn't that the whole point?

    Seriously, though, mods probably should watch themselves carefully and at least try to restrain themselves. Although, I probably shouldn't be talking, sometimes I also give off a little steam, when closing redundant threads for example.

    Maybe I should just come up with a catch-phrase, that's short and witty and not as insulting, like "That's the end of that chapter."
     
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