main
side
curve
  1. Welcome to the new boards! Details here!

Amph At The Movies (film discussion thread)

Discussion in 'Community' started by DarthMane2, May 23, 2015.

  1. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 19, 2002
    [​IMG]

    I guess that allows does allow them to fulfill their obligation and yet still be able to basically do a direct to video release. I mean most theaters are closed now anyway (my wife and I had lunch in the parking lot of one for her birthday) so really this is just a VOD with a sneak peak in a few theaters.

    And I lay the over/under of the next tentpole release in the theater to be summer of next year...at the earliest. The hybrid movie theater model simply does not work for them. Movies like that are front runners and unless you get a lot of people in the theater quickly, it simply is not going to be the big earner they expected. The days of the blockbuster slow burn are over with. It's get it out, have the theaters be backed for about 2 months and then watch it slowly fizzle over the next two months before moving quickly to VOD/home video sales.
     
    BigAl6ft6 likes this.
  2. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    Nov 2, 2000
    I ventured to my local art house to see Sofia Coppola's latest, On the Rocks.

    Easily her worst film. And extremely bland. I mean, in the past even if she made a movie that you didn't like, you had to admit that there was a vision there. Like Marie Antoinette. The whole pop music video vibe might not have worked for you, but it was a very personal take, there was a clear artistic vision and it was interesting even if you thought it didn't work. You could have a conversation about the movie and the ideas behind it. It wasn't bland. It wasn't boring. I have nothing to say about On the Rocks. There isn't one interesting thing, not one interesting scene or shot, not one good performance or good line, not a single personal touch . . . it's the blandest movie imaginable. There's not a moment where it doesn't make the safest choice.

    Okay, fine, Jenny Slate is in it for about five minutes and I'm always glad to have her on-screen company. Otherwise, bad.
     
    Master_Lok, Luke02 and BigAl6ft6 like this.
  3. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Spokesman of SWTV star 6 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Oct 16, 2008
    It's gotten mixed reception on RT, critics think it's great, everyone else doesn't. I'd watch it myself but I used up my free trial for Apple+ for Greyhound. Worth it.
     
  4. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    Nov 2, 2000
    Greyhound was probably funnier.
     
    Luke02 likes this.
  5. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

    Registered:
    Apr 3, 2002
  6. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
  7. I Are The Internets

    I Are The Internets Shelf of Shame Host star 9 VIP - Game Host

    Registered:
    Nov 20, 2012
    I agree. Peter Stormare is the best cinematic interpretation of Lucifer in recent memory.

    "Busy busy busy"
     
    Rogue1-and-a-half likes this.
  8. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 20, 2003



    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  9. Rogue1-and-a-half

    Rogue1-and-a-half Manager Emeritus who is writing his masterpiece star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Registered:
    Nov 2, 2000
    Also Tilda Swinton's Gabriel is one of the best on-screen angels in the movies. So ******* good.
     
  10. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 19, 2002
    First trailer for the Tom & Jerry live action movie slated for next year:



    That has PVOD written all over it. Also another trailer for ZS cut of Justice League just dropped as well:



    Why do I have a feeling it will be released on HBO Max in October of next year right when the HBO Max deal expires???
     
  11. Adam of Nuchtern

    Adam of Nuchtern Force Ghost star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 2, 2012
  12. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 19, 2002


    So the fact they are calling it "Scream" makes me suspect that this might be like Halloween was a few years ago and they throw away the previous sequels. That make a lot of sense as none of them were very well received (though both Scream 2 & 3 did very well at the box office) and this obviously gives them a lot more freedom story wise. Just I don't think anyone cares about the Scream franchise anymore. The younger generation barely knows what it is (nor cares) and while Generation X thinks it should be left back in the 1990's when the film actually worked. Point blank the younger generation does not understand irony very well.
     
  13. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Jan 27, 2000
    Universal cuts deal with Cinemark.

    Basically, any movie that opens at $50m or more can hit PVOD 31 days after its debut, while anything sub-$50m openings can go PVOD after 17 days. These will not apply to regular on-demand and streaming services (so they can't go to Peacock, for instance). Universal now has PVOD deals with AMC and Cinemark but not Regal.

    And the greatest headline today: Spike Lee to Helm a Viagra Musical.
     
    Luke02 likes this.
  14. TiniTinyTony

    TiniTinyTony JCC Game Winner star 6 VIP - Game Winner

    Registered:
    Mar 9, 2003
    @Luke02 the fact they are calling it "Scream" tracks with industry standards that masses are less likely to go see a movie with a number in it because of the "requirement" to see the previous numbered films to understand the backstory before seeing the new film

    @The2ndQuest good news for PVOD fans, but what do you think the policy will be for physical media?
     
  15. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Jan 27, 2000
    I assume it will remain the same, falling underneath the category of "not PVOD". Timed to standard on-demand windows. Mainly because I assume they still want that double-dip revenue needed to make blockbusters viable, now grouping PVOD in with theatrical revenue as the first, and physical home video/on-demand/digital to own as the second.
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2020
  16. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

    Registered:
    Nov 12, 2012
    Super confusing movie titles of the day, Margot Robbie 2019 film Dreamland (released on VOD this week) and Canadian Bruce McDonald 2019 film Dreamland (on Crave today, was released online in May) with Juliette Lewis and Henry Rollins. The Canadian one was at the 2019 Toronto Film Festival the Margot Robbie one was at other 2019 film festivals. The cable description I'm looking at right now says the Margot Robbie one when the Canadian one is one (which was confusing because I was going to shell out the rental for the Margot Robbie one but it's not that one that is on now). I'm planning to watch Dreamland this week. The Margot Robbie one. Although if I can I'll also watch the other one!
     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2020
  17. DarthMane2

    DarthMane2 Jedi Grand Master star 5

    Registered:
    Sep 20, 2003
    Wonder Woman 84 will hit theatres and HBO MAX on Dec 24th


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     
  18. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

    Registered:
    Nov 12, 2012
    This seems a desperation move to get HBOMax subs in the US and then just tossing it out internationally, which seems ridiculous. Theaters are closed in places that aren't America too, specifically in my city in Ontario. Not that I'd go anyway with the current COVID cases. It's incredibly stupid that WB thinks they'll somehow make it back internationally.

     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2020
    Luke02 likes this.
  19. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Jan 27, 2000
    That's not entirely surprising, given the recent HBOM talk. I think they realize that JL is the only thing giving them potential subscriber momentum and they're desperate to not fall too far behind the competition- so it makes sense for them to sacrifice WW84 to promote, in a way, and try to get some sign-ups leading up to JL, instead of solely because of JL (contrasted against the MCU, which has several TV shows to sustain D+ with until they can release films theatrically, and with D+ being one of the big dogs in town already with excessive sign-ups).

    This also establishes a deadline for catching Tenet in IMAX- WW84 will certainly boot Tenet off those screens next month.

    Unrelated, I thought this was interesting: Katee Sackhoff reacting to her first feature film role in Halloween: Resurrection, a film she's never watched before. Beyond the regular react stuff (and some amusing self-mockery), she does have some interesting commentary on issues like contracts and body doubles:

     
    Last edited: Nov 18, 2020
    christophero30 likes this.
  20. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

    Registered:
    Jul 13, 2008
    If I had to guess WB is probably gambling that other countries will have reopened theatres by late December.

    Which, hm...

     
    BigAl6ft6, darthcaedus1138 and Luke02 like this.
  21. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

    Registered:
    Sep 19, 2002
    Very bold @Ramza but has a HBO Max subscriber I am actually really happy. Now of course I had to order Amazon Fire stick since Comcast + HBO have STILL NOT gotten a deal together (neither has Roku) and talk is it won't be until after the New Year. So now I had to spend money on that. Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Only good part is that I can eventually move that Fire Stick to the kids playroom TV since right now it has only a Blu Ray/Nintendo hook up to it. So in the end it was most likely something I needed to get anyway but still not something I needed to get right away.

    It's obviously though that HBO is going to be the DC Network which is a good thing IMHO. HBO makes fabulous TV shows obviously and really bring a quality that is been lacking in DC content overall.
     
  22. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

    Registered:
    Jan 27, 2000
    Canada's Cineplex signs onto Universal's PVOD deal. Essentially the same thing Cinemark just signed. Interesting detail not mentioned before is that exhibitors will likely be getting a cut of the PVOD profits.

    Amazon sets a release date of March 5th for Coming 2 America.

    Disney may move Cruella (w/Emma Stone), Pinnochio (w/Tom Hanks) & Peter Pan and Wendy to D+, though whether they'll be "Soul"-like free or a "Mulan"-like premium purchase hasn't been decided.

    The price for allowing WB to break the theatrical exclusivity window contract is that theaters will be getting a higher percentage of WW84's ticket sales than usual (though specific %'s haven't been released yet). But AMC, in particular, is onboard with the move.

    Variety is pretty much confirming that WB expects to lose money on WW84, but, surprisingly, it's not just about expanding their subscriber base- they're seeing WW84 losing money as the price of an advertising campaign to make more people aware that HBO Max simply exists. Apparently, 70% of HBO's customer base has access to it for free but haven't signed up- in addition to people who pay for HBO Max and don't use it (...I feel attacked). So this is being seen as an effort to get people to both new sign ups, transfer over existing customers and convince people to start thinking of it as a go-to service in general.

    The article also reveals that WB felt that delaying WW84 even further (since it was finished in 2018) for a traditional, fulltheatrical release would have made it seem "stale" by time it could be released, which was their main reason for wanting to put it out sooner rather than later. Pairing it as a sacrificial solution to the HBOM problem is what they arrived at.

    EDIT- Also, trailer out for that Tom Holland/Daisy Ridley sci-fi film:

     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
  23. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 7

    Registered:
    Nov 12, 2012
    Interesting that Cineplex didn't do the deal until about a week and a half before Croods 2 drops which is the Beta Test for it, I was wondering if it was going to go through by the time it hit. It's probably likely Universal movies will still be "premium" priced.

    Chaos Walking has been delayed for so long (and hellova cast too) I wonder if it'll end up with a VOD deal similar to Croods/Wonder Woman 84.
     
    Last edited: Nov 20, 2020
  24. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 8

    Registered:
    May 18, 2017
    My Regal movie theater is still closed. They even took down the posters outside. :(
     
  25. LAJ_FETT

    LAJ_FETT Tech Admin and Collecting/Lucasfilm Ltd Mod star 10 Staff Member Administrator

    Registered:
    May 25, 2002
    Cinemas are closed in England til at least Dec 2 since we are in lockdown.
     
    christophero30 likes this.