Bail Organa discussion thread- Who was this guy anyway?

Hello everyone! This is a sock for VaderLVR64, and I've recently become fascinated with the character of Bail Organa. As someone pointed out (Gabri_Jade) he doesn't get much time on the fan fic boards, and we never even saw his face in the OT!

So, I'd like to make this the official Bail Organa discussion thread. I'll also be keeping an index of stories that feature noble and brave character. Please PM your story information to this sock and include as much of the following information as possible:

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Okay, just a topic to throw out there. If Bail had NOT been on Alderaan when it was destroyed, how do you think that might have changed the course of the Rebellion and the lives of Luke and Leia?>

 

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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/17157545/]Daughters[/link]
Author: AERYN_SUN
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20553018/]Rest, My Angel[/link]
Author: AERYN_SUN
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/19343535/]Going Back to Yesterday[/link]
Author: Alethia
Timeframe: circa two years post ROTS
Characters: Padmé, Anakin/Vader at the moment, but expect Bail Organa, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Emperor Palpatine and assorted others to appear eventually.
Genre: Drama, Angst, Romance
Warnings: This will not be a pleasant ride. It is a dark fic and this is the edited version of it, since the unedited version is too highly rated to be posted here. There are also spoilers. Read at own risk.
Summary: AU. After giving birth to the twins, instead of dying, Padmé slips into a coma. Two years later, she awakens to find the galaxy much changed from when she last knew it. But the foremost thing on her mind is seeking out her husband?
Notes: This started out as a random idea, as most all fics do, I?d assume. Getting back into the fandom after an almost three year absence, this idea popped into my head and after a bit of wrangling with it, I got it to work. At least I hope so?

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21508850/]Detachment[/link]
Author: AlisonC
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Summary: Zett is training with his Master in the Jedi Temple on Coruscant when it is attacked.
Author's Note: I published this on FFN as Eleventh Guard. (I made a few edits to it, but just to fix a fairly trivial details.) It's the only one I currently have that is postable here at TFN, so I figured I'd post and see what you guys/gals think. Feedback, including concrit, is welcomed.

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21919128/]Wishes[/link]
Author(s): amidalachick
Timeframe: Intertrilogy
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Genre: Uh...angst?
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Summary: Bail and Leia talk and think and remember.
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21963216/]A Dark And Stormy Night[/link]
Author(s): bobill
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Characters: Padme/Leia/Bail
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Notes: Halloween Challenge

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21164737/]Star Wars: Episode IV-Distant Horizon[/link]
Author(s): Briman
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Characters: Luke, Leia, Vader, Obi-Wan, Bail
Genre: AU
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/22727928/]Rodian Chicken[/link]
Author(s): brodiew
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Characters: OCs, Bail Organa
Genre: vignette
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20097406/]Little One[/link]
Author(s): Cat_Orange
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Summary: Little Leia learns that justice, equality and freedom are hard things to come by in the Galaxy she's living in.
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/18799293/]Contemplanys Hermi[/link]
Author(s): Countess
Timeframe: Attack of the Clones
Characters: Garm Bel Iblis, Bail Organa
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Keywords: Episode II, missing moment scene.
Summary: A few nights before the Battle of Geonosis, two colleagues meet in Nié Noir and discuss loyalty and treachery and other matters of galactic import.
Notes: This is from my long-written but until now unpublished Stressful Times collection of short stories. Probably AU. Who know? All characters belong to Lucasfilm. No profits being made.

Ti

 

Authors I - R


Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/19145441/?6]Loss and Love[/link]
Author(s): Killik_Twilight
Timeframe: post-ROTS
Characters: Bail, his wife, and baby Leia
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Summary: Bail's thoughts after the conclusion of the Revenge of the Sith
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=10933967&start=10933972]The Lost Temple[/link]
Author: Sabe126
Timeframe: Pre TPM/ PT
Characters: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Qui-Gon Jinn, OC, Bail Organa (not until half way through)
Genre: Adventure
Summary: For a thousand years the secrets of the Jedi have remained hidden?
Notes: First part of the Lost Trilogy.

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/15062760/?0]The Lost Holocron[/link]Author(s): Sabe126
Timeframe: inter trilogy
Characters: Obi-Wan Kenobi, OC, Bail Organa
Genre: Adventure
Summary: A year after the fall of the Republic, increased Imperial activity on Tatooine sets Obi-Wan Kenobi on a quest to locate an ancient Jedi artefact
Notes: Second part of the Lost Trilogy

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/17759931/?1]The Lost Warrior[/link]
Author(s): Sabe126
Timeframe: OT
Characters: Obi-Wan Kenobi, Luke, Leia, OC, Bail Organa
Genre: Adventure
Summary: In the aftermath of the battle of Yavin IV, Leia and Luke learn about Obi-Wan Kenobi?s mission to uncover the greatest Jedi secret of them all?
Notes: Final part of the Lost Trilogy.

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/22864985/p1/?16]Leia?s Father[/link]
Author: VaderLVR64
Genre: one-shot
Characters: Bail Organa, Darth Vader
Timeframe: Post ROTS
Summary: Leia?s father contemplates his daughter?s future and her legacy.
Notes: Inspired by a line in Dark Lord.


Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/The_Saga/b10476/21052518/?0]For I Shall Not Pass This Way Again[/link]
Author: WendyNat
Characters: Bail and Breha Organa, Obi-Wan, Padmé, Leia
Timeframe: RotS through ANH
Genre: Drama/Angst
Summary: An old saying quoted by Padmé Amidala is the principle by which Bail lives his life.
Notes: This is a second answer to the Quotation Roulette challenge, which can be found here. For this second request, I got number 115: "I expect to pass through this world but once. Any good thing, therefore, that I can do or any kindness I can show to any fellow human being let me do it now. Let me not defer nor neglect it, for I shall not pass this way again." -- Stephen Grellet. For my purposes in this fic, I changed "human being" to "being".

Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/the_saga/b10476/22766434]The Stone Lilies of Alderaan[/link]
Author: WendyNat
Characters: Bail, Breha, and Leia Organa
Timeframe: Post-RotS
Genre: Drama/Angst
Summary: Memories return when Bail Organa gives advice and comfort to his daughter.
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Title: [link=http://boards.theforce.net/Message.aspx?topic=20542239]Harder than Expected[/link]
Author: Wendynat
Characters: Padme, Anakin, Bail
Timeframe: Between AotC and RotS
Genre: Romance
Summary: Response to the July Ani/Ami Challenge, "Wow, Ani. You're all grown up!"
Notes: This is in answer to the July Ani/Ami Challenge.

 

Okay, just a topic to throw out there. If Bail had NOT been on Alderaan when it was destroyed, how do you think that might have changed the course of the Rebellion and the lives of Luke and Leia?

If Bail hadn't died on Alderaan, I think he definitely would have had a major role in the Rebellion. He and Mon Mothma would have been the figureheads of the Alliance. I also think it's a possibility that Bail could have been the first Chief of State of the New Republic.

As for changing the lives of Luke and Leia...I hope he'd tell them they're brother and sister before Hoth and the med center scene...

 

As for changing the lives of Luke and Leia...I hope he'd tell them they're brother and sister before Hoth and the med center scene...

Or perhaps walked in at that moment, cleared his throat and said "Uh, I think there's something you kids should know..."

 

This is a great idea.

Current topic. Ok.

IMO he'd head up the Rebellion yes. But as far as Luke and Leia. I think that unless they planned on pursuing a personal relationship with each other that he'd refrain from telling them they were twins.

The only reason I would think that is because Vader is dangerous and so is the Emperor. If Luke and Leia knew, it would mean that the Emperor could find out. Some secrets are better kept until absolutely necessary.

 

Great idea for a thread! It seems that poor Bail gets neglected in most fics, except for a few cameos.

Okay, just a topic to throw out there. If Bail had NOT been on Alderaan when it was destroyed, how do you think that might have changed the course of the Rebellion and the lives of Luke and Leia?

Not much really. In the OT we don't see Mon Mothma doing so much except for heading meeting, and sort of being like the CEO of a company. However, if Bail did wind up becoming the first Chief of State, the Rebellion might have been more respected because Bail seems to have been a more well known figure to the general public. Also, if Mon Mothma had been Bail's sort of second-in-command like Leia had become Mon Mothma, it would have freed up Leia's time so she would have been able to spend more time with Jaina, Jacen and Anakin, preventing much jealousy on Jaina's part from happening. Assuming, of course, that the rest of the EU would continue on as it did.

Of course, Luke and Leia would also now be able to know much more about their mother and father, and Bail would be able to tell Luke more about the way the old Order worked.

Let the plot bunnies start breeding!

 

If Bail had NOT been on Alderaan when it was destroyed, how do you think that might have changed the course of the Rebellion and the lives of Luke and Leia?

I don't think he would have joined the Rebellion - not openly, anyway. Keep in mind, this is a man who raised his daughter to be a Rebel and a Senator. I doubt he'd throw away all he'd worked for in a fit of rage and despair.

I see him on Coruscant during the course of the OT, doing his part to secretly help the Rebels without blowing his cover. He might even denounce Leia as a traitor and a terrorist just to throw off suspicions.

- lazy



PS - I've got links to fifty or so fics with Bail Organa in them. Interested?

 

That would be wonderful, lazy!

 

I think that Bail Organa would have been like Rieekan in taking as active a part in the Rebellion as possible. I mean, he's the guy, when he saw the Jedi Order under attack, went to fight for them. While he's an administrative type by training and occupation, I can see him like Leia. I think she got it from Bail as much as her parents. As for the whole L/L, I think he would have told them early on and seen to it that they both were aware of what they could learn from Yoda.

 

I'd bet that Garm bel Iblis would've stayed in the Rebellion if Bail hadn't died ? a lot of stuff I've read (official info, not fanfic ) says that Organa was a mediating influence for the other two? that he kept them together.

KT

 

So is this just Bail or is Breha going to be included? I've been fascinated with her for some reason.

By that point I think the cat would have been out of the bag, so to speak. Alderaan would be found out as a Rebel Alliance planet and their would have been battles around it. Bail would have to go with the leaders of the Alliance.

As for Luke and Leia? I bet he would have noticed Luke oogling her and put a stop to that.

 

Sure! I'd love to see Breha discussed here. If we get enough interest, we can create her own thread.

 

I'd love to see Breha in here--she appeared for all of 30 seconds in the movie, yet was such an important intertrilogy character. And I agree that Bel Iblis and Mon Mothma were balanced by Organa.

 

I'd like to see some Breha too. In researching for a fic I read somewhere that she was the Ministry of Education. I find that entirely fascinating that she was more than the face on EPIII.

 

If Bail had NOT been on Alderaan when it was destroyed, how do you think that might have changed the course of the Rebellion and the lives of Luke and Leia?

Mmmm, for a start (and because my mind is obviously fixed on it ) Han's life would have been much more complicated with Leia's father around... Do you think Bail would have allowed any guy to behave around his daughter like Han did before Bespin? I don't think so. Al least, he would have had a nice man-to-man conversation with the smuggler.

 

Breha was the Ministry of Education of education on Alderaan, correct? I think I remember reading something along those lines in the novelization of RotJ.

I can just imagine Bail meeting Han for the first time! I think he wouldn't have approved of Han or his lifestyle (all that smuggling spice) at first, but as Han stuck with the Rebellion and the more he got to know him as a person, Bail would have liked him.

 

Breha... she's Bail's wife isn't she? Just want to make sure because she appears without a name in the movie.

 

Yup ? that she was.

KT

 

Do you think Bail would have served as sort of a surrogate father figure for Luke, especially after the loss of Ben?

 

If Bail had survived I don't think he'd admit L/L's connection for fear of the Emperor discovering about Leia. She was probably everything to him and having her connected to a Skywalker would probably frighten him into silence.

Now after the Emperor died it would be safe to admit it, but by then Luke was an adult. He wouldn't need a father then. He would, IMO, accept Bail as a friend, having raised his sister into the fine woman she was and all.

 

You asked for it, so here it is.

I'll be editing out the ones that get added to the index.

- lazy


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by AERYN_SUN
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/17157545/]Daughters (Bail/Leia Viggie) - Post RotS[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20553018/]Rest, My Angel (Bail & Sabe, small Sobiwan)[/link]

by Alethia
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/19343535/]Going Back to Yesterday: ROTS AU, V/P, Obi, Bail, Chapter 7...Important Note (28/10)[/link]

by AlisonC
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21508850/]Detachment (Zett Jukassa, Bail Organa, OC) Spoilers for RotS. One-shot. 9/10/05[/link]

by amidalachick
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21919128/]Wishes - Intertrilogy viggie, Bail, Leia, Dare Challenge Entry[/link]

by bobilll
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21963216/]A Dark And Stormy Night (Halloween Challenge) Padme/Leia/Bail[/link]

by Briman
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/21164737/]Star Wars: Episode IV-Distant Horizon (AU, Luke, Leia, Vader, Obi-Wan, Bail) Chapter Four Sept-12th![/link]

by brodiew
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/22727928/]Rodian Chicken (OCs, Bail Organa) one shot viggie[/link]

by Cat_Orange
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20097406/]Little One (Little Leia, Bail) [/link]

by Countess
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/18799293/]Contemplanys Hermi 4/4 - AotC Missing Moment (genfic, Garm Bel Iblis, Bail Organa) Completed 24-Mar[/link]

by Darth_Father-in-law
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/22812364/]A new day will come - Vader(suitless), Dark Padme, Sabe, Obi-wan, twins, Bail.Chapter 3 - 1/13[/link]

by FelsGoddess
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20741852/]His Clothes- Breha Organa viggie[/link]

by Hananiah
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/16739096/]Growing pains Young Leia/Bail/Winter [/link]

by JDH3
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/22533164/]Grave Robbing-(Post-ROTS vignette) Bail/Breha Organa[/link]

by Jedikma
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/16790247/]I Hate You! (A/P/O/S/Bail/Siri Romance/Humor one-post) *Drabble added 9/11*[/link]

by JediMindTrick000
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/18044374/]Jett Lennox, Jedi Knight - The Series! Issue #2 "Bail Bonds" (1/20)[/link]

by Jedi_of_Imladris
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/22397215/]To Be an Organa (Leia, Bail)[/link]

by kimmi
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20630555/]R U kidding Me? Bail Organa meets Han Solo[/link]

by L-O-S
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/11259716/]Beyond the Blue: What if Alderaan wasn't destroyed? ( H/Le L/V Bail/Obi) AU[/link]

by LukeSkywalker_2001
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20068215/]Bail and Correon - Prequel Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20070067/]Bail and Sara - Prequel Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20073953/]Bail and Correon - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20080429/]Padme and Bail - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with lady_sapphire as Padme)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20089182/]Bail and Wedge - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20092977/]Padme and Bail - Prequel Trilogy Notes AU (with lady_sapphire as Padme)016458341[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20415477/]Bail and Leia (Lissy) - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20474385/]Palpatine and Bail - Prequel Trilogy Notes AU (with LLL as Palpatine)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20836128/]Bail and Obi-Wan - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
[link=http://boards.theforce.net/a/b1/20999980/]Bail and Luke - Original Trilogy Notes AU (with Kynstar as Bail)[/link]
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Wow! Thanks! I'll get started on these right away. Our index is up and running, folks!

 

If Bail had survived I don't think he'd admit L/L's connection for fear of the Emperor discovering about Leia. She was probably everything to him and having her connected to a Skywalker would probably frighten him into silence.

Nice point! And Leia was in enough danger with Vader already knowing about her role in the Alliance.

Do you think Bail would have served as sort of a surrogate father figure for Luke, especially after the loss of Ben?

I think Bail would've tried, but I don't think it would've worked out so well. Bail would've probably tried to connect to Luke through teaching him and with Luke's personality the way it was then, he wouldn't have had the patience to sit through lessons in politics. I can just picture him sitting in a lesson thinking, "He's a nice guy and all, but this stuff is boring. And what does it have to do with defeating the Empire anyway?"

Also, Luke would probably feel awkward around Bail anyway. He'd probably have so many questions to ask about Ben and his father but would be too nervous to ask such an important man with so many things on his hands. And even if he did ask, Bail probably would beat around the bush with an answer because he wouldn't want to reveal too much to Luke, and Luke would just get frusterated.

Yes, there are way too many probablies and words like that but I'm just throughing out what seems like logical assumptions to me.