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Census Best U.S. President from 1852-1896?

Discussion in 'Community' started by Ghost, Apr 2, 2016.

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Best U.S. President from 1852-1896?

  1. Franklin Pierce

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  2. James Buchanan

    6.7%
  3. Abraham Lincoln

    80.0%
  4. Andrew Johnson

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  5. Ulysses Simpson Grant

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  6. Rutherford Birchard Hayes

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  7. James Abram Garfield

    6.7%
  8. Chester Alan Arthur

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  9. Benjamin Harrison

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  10. Stephen Grover Cleveland

    6.7%
  1. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    Who was the best U.S. President from 1852-1896, and why?




    Franklin Pierce
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    James Buchanan
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    Abraham Lincoln
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    Andrew Johnson
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    Ulysses Simpson Grant
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    Rutherford Birchard Hayes
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    James Abram Garfield
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    Chester Alan Arthur
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    Benjamin Harrison
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    Stephen Grover Cleveland (22nd and 24th)
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  2. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Most of these Presidents were dreadful. Johnson, Grant, Buchanan, and Pierce, especially. Not Warren J. Harding terrible, but pretty terrible. Grant probably worst, then Buchanan, then Pierce, then Johnson.

    Of the decent ones, Lincoln far and away the best.

    Grover Cleveland probably second best, and then the heap of fat bearded men in the middle, Arthur/Hayes/Harrison/Garfield.
     
  3. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    My rankings (giving a INC to Garfield because he was killed so early in his term)

    1. Lincoln




    2. Cleveland
    3. Arthur
    4. Hayes/Harrison/Grant


    5. Pierce








    6. Johnson/Buchanan

    Spaces are intentional
     
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  4. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    I kind of wish I did a poll just on the Presidents from Andrew Johnson to Grover Cleveland.

    That sure would have been interesting :D
     
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  5. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Not as interesting as a Tsar poll. :(
     
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  6. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    Garfield deserves a high ranking for being honorable.
     
  7. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Hating Mondays and loving lasagna.
     
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  8. Ghost

    Ghost Chosen One star 8

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    I don't understand how anyone can think Harding is worse than Buchanan.
     
  9. heels1785

    heels1785 Skywalker Saga + JCC Manager / Finally Won A Draft star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Harding was essentially a mob boss. Buchanan was terrible and totally unprepared for the challenges he faced, but not deliberately bad. Grant was horribly corrupt, as well - if anyone is close to Harding, it's him.
     
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  10. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    You left out out a bunch of good tsars!
     
  11. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    Alexander III fan, are ya?

    (I didn't leave out that many since I was only focusing on the Empire era, but I included all the murdered ones because I found it amusing.)
     
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  12. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    I was thinking of Elizabeth mainly, especially since Peter III managed to flop his way onto the list.
     
  13. Jabba-wocky

    Jabba-wocky Chosen One star 10

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    My selection won regardless. No one rivals the Liberator.
     
  14. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Johnson is arguably at least as terrible as Harding. The guy turned back most of the promise of emancipation of black folks and the promise Lincoln gave in his final inaugural. He gave blanket pardons to unreconstructed confederates who then returned to their political positions in the South and threw many of the freed black folks out of political office and off of lands the U.S. had leased to them during and immediately after the Civil War. He paved the way for Jim Crow to ascend as the governing racial policy in the south for decades.

    He was a bad, bad president.

    Grant is more akin to Harding in that both were beset by corruption.

    Now if we are staying with the "what they set out to accomplish" then it has to be Lincoln. Cleveland might be second.
     
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  15. MrZAP

    MrZAP Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    No one gives enough credit to Arthur. Not one of the best presidents, but a solid one, certainly.

    Still, Lincoln is the only choice here, obviously.

    Johnson is up there with Harding and Jackson for terrible presidents. Bottom five at the very minimum.