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Senate "Biden Beats Trump" - The 2020 General Election Presidential Thread

Discussion in 'Community' started by Point Given , Aug 27, 2020.

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  1. Coruscant

    Coruscant Force Ghost star 7

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    I was just wondering when we were going to start a thread for election predictions with electoral college outcomes. Don’t we usually do one every four years?
     
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  2. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval TV Casualty / FFS! star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Take it to Comms.
     
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  3. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Man Trump's COVID-19 giveaway rally speeches are so bad even FNC is throwing in the towel:



    In terms of a campaign, the differences between now 2016 and 2020 could not be more stark. Four years ago his stump speeches at the end were full of lies and total BS, they were also crisp and a honed message. Hillary is corrupt just like our system is and I will run it like a business to make it be efficient again. Just enough people put it along with voter suppression/confusion and well stupidity to put him in office. Now it's "There is a pandemic that is now raging out of control even though I keep only my Plan A of a miracle will kick in and I destroyed the economy along with being the inefficient and most corrupt president in history but man would you look at Hunter Biden's emails!". Just doesn't play the same. In a way it's embarrassing to see a presidential candidate be so ineffective. Right now, Rich Lowry is making the argument that the only reason to vote for Trump (which he is) is to give the liberals the "middle finger". It truly has gone to, "Okay he caused a pandemic to rage, ruined our economy and stoke racial tensions so bad it evens makes yearn for 1968 again but we got to own the libs by voting for him."

    Again I truly think Biden is going to win election day and is starting to lean rather handily. But that does not mean he will be in office come January 22nd of next year. Trump will definitely try every play in the playbook to steal the election including saying the whole thing was a sham therefore it's invalid. The question is what do Republicans do. McConnell again is ready to cut bait so if Trump loses by enough he will be inclined to say, "Thanks Donald for everything but you need to get going" but the MAGA members will not and certainly back a qausi coup.

    Edit: One of my former colleagues asked why do you think his campaign speeches are so out of whack right now compared to 2016. Few reasons:

    1. Being the challenger makes it easier to attack-attack-attack your opponent with being very light on well any platform. As Bill Burr, Trump BS his entire platform and got away with it because he put everything on Hillary and again enough things went his way it worked just enough.
    2. He has less seasoned political professionals in his campaign then even 2016. It truly is Wonderboy Jared and a bunch of MAGA flunkies.
    3. Four years in office has shattered his confidence. Four years ago he talked himself into thinking he was to the job even though he really did not want. Now? He knows by far and away he is in over his skis and IMHO has been for years subconsciously calling out for help. This clip is being played for laughs by his supporters and even some media types but honestly it truly is a cry out for help like today he talk about jumping in a truck and driving off. That was not him joking around, that was legit him crying out for help. It might not be the same as John Lennon literally writing a song called "Help!" as he felt like he was drowning in the middle of Beatlemania but it truly is a call for help. Again shrinks will have a field day on this guy for generations. Ditto historians.

    But don't worry though he won the war on Christmas! :)



    I am surprised not much caravan talk this year. I guess after Caravan 2.0 struck out in 2018 maybe they thought leave it in Mexico this year? LOL!
     
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  4. DarkGingerJedi

    DarkGingerJedi Force Ghost star 5

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    I love his repeated "I didn't need to do this, I had a nice life." line. What an ass.
     
  5. Point Given

    Point Given Manager star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Be the change you wish to see!
     
  6. Knoah

    Knoah Jedi Padawan star 1

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    its gonna be a long dark winter
     
  7. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    omg instead of that crash course on selfdenial and sheer psychosis that is the alternate reality hillary show, we should demand one but if Jeb one. I would watch the **** out of that
     
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  8. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    It's official, she's a Supreme now
     
  9. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Terrifying.
     
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  10. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Color me crazy, but it feels like a Pyrrhic victory. McConnell’s won the battle, but something tells me he’ll lose the war.
     
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  11. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval TV Casualty / FFS! star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    When you word it like this, it is doubly horrible. I didn't want her as a judge but I certainly didn't want her singing "Stop in the Name of Love".
     
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  12. Jedi Merkurian

    Jedi Merkurian New Films Rumor Naysayer star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    EDIT: Wrong thread
     
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  13. vncredleader

    vncredleader Force Ghost star 5

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    sure glad Feinstein took the time to normalize all this and boost her approval among dems vastly. that was just fantastic and gives me hope that democrats will do anything moving forwards. why do i get the sense they will literally pick a conservative judge again if they get a pick again, Biden has been supportive of picking conservative or centrist judges. the dems dont play ball cause they are not on the opposing side
     
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  14. Princess_Tina

    Princess_Tina Chosen One star 7

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    I can only hope so, or else we kiss goodbye to any progressive advancement for the next 30-40 years. :mad:
     
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  15. Glitterstimm

    Glitterstimm Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Lincoln Project's grand strategy unfolding exactly as planned.
     
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  16. Tython Awakening

    Tython Awakening Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Mr. Trump strains himself evermore yet everyday. New veins are appearing on his forehead. He is reaching new, darker orange hues as he strains to pump out his rhetoric. They must be running him on steroids.
     
  17. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    And so the US Supreme Court dies
     
  18. Darth Weavile

    Darth Weavile Jedi Knight star 3

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    With thunderous applause.
     
  19. Coruscant

    Coruscant Force Ghost star 7

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  20. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    We got to redefine the court after this. It’s 6-3 that is unacceptable
     
  21. Vaderize03

    Vaderize03 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    And Pennsylvania Republicans have wasted no time capitalizing on this.

    The previous case that deadlocked 4-4 was on the question of a stay. The Pennsylvania GOP has now asked the Court to rule on the merits of the case “with all due speed.” They are absolutely determined to disqualify as many mail-in ballots as they can.

    Given that the overwhelming majority of Democrats in my state have voted by mail this year, the intent here is obvious. It’s also worth pointing out that under Pennsylvania state law, mail-in ballots cannot even start to be counted until the morning of Election Day itself. PA’s vote is in real danger of being stolen by Trump.

    In other lovely news, Mississippi has asked the Court to take up its 15-week abortion ban, a direct challenge to Roe. Anyone want to guess if there’ll be 4 votes to grant certariori?
     
  22. Clone_Cmdr_Wedge

    Clone_Cmdr_Wedge Jedi Master star 4

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    Especially since 3 of those 6 seats are stolen as far as I'm concerned.
     
  23. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett PT Interview Host/All-Around Good Guy star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    Roe V Wade is finished and will be dead by the end of the year.

    Biden can still win. That is the only way to save this country
     
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  24. Luke02

    Luke02 Chosen One star 6

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    Again @DarkGingerJedi I think it truly is a cry out for help even though he would never admit to him. He is a fill in the blank though no doubt about it.

    It is a stunning turn of fortunes @Tython Awakening as Politico wrote. Four years ago it was his opponent who was wobbling. Now it's Trump who is wobbling and worse yet he keeps talking...and talking...and talking...and talking. He STILL has not figure out that after four years he is no longer the challenger but the incumbent. And the incumbent during a pandemic! The ironic part he should be traveling....but traveling to states to not campaign but offer relief from COVID-19. He should be in Utah, the Dakotas and all over the Midwest delivering PPE, showing him talking with health care workers with masks on etc. Hell if I were advising him I would told him have a one hour town hall meeting on all three networks about COVID a month with Dr. Fauci and Dr. Collins along with the Surgeon General etc. Talk about preparations for the fall as flu season approach what to do in order to keep the wave minimum etc and keep the economy going as much as possible. If he did that, be might be ten points up right now! I would told him to declare this when it all began. "Whatever I did right or wrong before does not matter as I will let those I was angry with (Pelosi etc) just go. Instead judge me by what I do during this moment of crisis and vote on my job performance of it". If he did that and used the CDC/NIH playbook on this? He be poised for a MASSSIVE victory. Again thank God he didn't LOL!

    Of course he did @Vaderize03 as even McConnell is astute enough to know that while the country has not moved liberal enough for some people on this board, it certainly is more "progressive" then it was even 25 years ago when the country was already becoming more center/right under Clinton then it was ten years previously when RR was president. He does not care though as it was always a game he was going to lose in the end since the backbone of his party believes the Book of Revelation is a swell time waiting to happen (which my old Bible teacher, Brother Harris would scream, "If you are not scared BLEEPLESS by the Book of Revelation, please go see a shrink immediately!" as yes I went to a Catholic High School as I really had no choice in the matter) and what makes even more harder for McConnell (not that I care) is the more they become the minority and feel "persecuted", the more they believe they are going to be proven right when the Rapture begins/end of times. It's a self serving prophecy "(I stay stuck in my ways even though the world is changing mostly thanks to technology therefore I am being persecuted for it")and always works no matter how many times Pat Robertson is wrong about the end of times. So yes Mitch knows he just made sure that Democrats most likely politics the next 15-20 years. Ask him if he cares. Spoiler alert - he doesn't. He is a like a part of a poker cheating team in Vegas that is about to get caught therefore he is putting in his chips early before the thunder is rained down on them which if you think about like the movie Casino has extra meaning this week since maybe someone broke Mitch's hand with a hammer LOL!

    Even if that @Jedi Knight Fett were to happen (not likely at all), most states would quickly pass abortion rights using their states constitution meaning it be only the true MAGA states would follow it and just be another battering ram for Democrats to use in 2022 and beyond as the GOP are going to learn deep down how many people want Roe vs Wade overturn....basically nobody. Even many "pro lifers" understand now it's a necessary evil and that the only way to drop the number of abortions down is to make birth control, cheap and assemble aka over the counter along with finally abandoning the stupidest education plan ever aka abstinence only as seriously I went to a Catholic high school and we had legit members of the clergy tell us guys, "I urge to not have sex but if insist on doing it, please see me about getting condoms"!. Overturning Roe vs Wade would just make the Republicans be more even more of a regional party for the next twenty years or until the progressives in the party take too much control and decide that the majority of your estate should go to the government. Then the ball could bounce back to the Republicans as by then the younger generation of GOP who are trying to rise up (some end of Generation Xers and younger) and run more of a center right platform that says yes climate change is real, health care is a right and we need to be more moderate/tolerable on social issues but we still need to be fiscally responsible could be gaining power. The problem is now QAnon thanks to Trump is overtaking the party therefore twenty from now the two national parties could look like Illinois right now. A too powerful/too liberal and way too corrupt Democratic party in power but people keep voting for them since the Republicans are literally Nazis. Good news? By then it won't really matter anyway since either AI would really be in control and/or aliens would have finally pop the hood and finally show us they been here the whole time and think it's adorable we learned to move our thumbs and use fire like 6 minutes ago. :)
     
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  25. Jedi Knight Fett

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    Just had my whole family donate to Joe Biden each of us did. We need to win this fight for this country
     
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