Amph Blade Runner (Original, Black Lotus, 2049, 2099)

Back to Kit Fisto again? Surely you can do better than that.

 

Neat, Blade Runner 2049 actually outgrossed Happy Death Day yesterday by 1 million dollars on Cheap Tuesday. (erm is cheap Tuesday movies a thing in the States or izzat only in Canada? Anyway, yeah, a few dollars cheaper on tuesdays anyway).

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/daily/chart/?sortdate=2017-10-17&p=.htm
TUESDAY BOX OFFICE
1. Blade Runner 2049 $1,848,120
2. Happy Death Day $1,727,445
3. The Foreigner $1,537,072

did my part actually had 3 other people with me to the 10:15 show yesterday. I'd like to think it contributed. Still fantastic the 2nd time around, even moreso cuz I wasn't trying to play mental detective with the story and just let it flow. I'd think this movie is like Godfather 2, Terminator 2, Empire and Aliens type of sequel where it's clearly a part of the world but it doesn't just shamelessly riff on a greatest hits variation and really does it's own thing.

 

Ok, just saw it. I loved it.

Spoiler heavy question:

Spoiler

So, did this film answer the question that Deckard was a replicant? Possibly.

The scene between Wallace and Deckard seems to allude to this and, to me, this is possibly the most controversial scene in the entire film. He mentions that, somehow, the meeting between Deckard and Rachael was planned and "designed". Are the writers kind of retconning that Deckard was programmed in some capacity to answer to his calling by going to the Tyrell building in the first film?

 

Spoiler

No. The writers are maintaining the legendary debate over the matter. After all Wallace says Deckard replies, "I know what's real." If Deckard is human then it was just Wallace trying to mess with his mind. He wanted information and he failed.

BTW, it's up to 194 million.

 

Yeah, I was half thinking it was just megalomaniacal ranting.

I buy your explanation.

 

The dialogue was meant to intentionally insinuate both things. That Wallace either had some knowledge about Deckard that he was slowly revealing. Or that Wallace was fishing for knowledge by making his assertions vague and then gauging Deckard's reactions to them.

There's an argument for either angle to be true.

 

It's just going to be one of those "personal preference" type things rather than a definitive explanation. I like that as it gives the personal imagination some room to move. It's almost interactive with your own imagination. This type of quality is rare and precious and is one of the reasons I have now completely blocked out the existence of the SW prequels, so I can transpose my own backstory.

 

This opens in China and Japan tomorrow.

 

There were prequels?

 

Yes. I quite liked them, even if I have heard that they were not to everybody's taste

 

Unfamiliar with them.

 

saw this last night .

well the story was better than I expected , like to see it again to catch certain points . it looked fantastic , it actually reminded me of Kubrick's A.I. as much as it did Bladerunner .

however - it really dragged in the second half , I didn't mind the languorous pace early on but when the plot started moving it just kept dragging , I like Ryan Gosling and he's good at pauses , but ffs did we need so many , and all the long gazing at the floor and off into the distance , give it a rest !
and the music , ugh , were Vangellis not available , that awful Hans Zimmer and his big ugly 'music'.

but it was pretty good movie and it didn't spoil the first one .

 

twice

 

couple of questions -

were the bald headed kids replicants ?
did we find out what was in the pot boiling on the stove at the start , was it significant ?

 

I don't think any of the kids were replicants because (1) replicants "can't" reproduce and (2) due to the need for a labor force, replicants are created as adults (at least from what I could tell).

I don't think what was in the boiling pot had any significance, but that scene in Blade Runner 2049 was originally scripted for the original Blade Runner film, so Denis Villeneuve found a way to incorporate it in the follow up film.

 

Oh well. It is up to 224 million though.

The children were not replicants. One thing to note, all the boys have shaved heads, the girls have trimmed but longer hair. Hence in the memories we thought were of a young boy K the child has the longer hair.

 

The pot on the stove was from the original Blade Runner script. All of it was.

 

I actually think the flavour of vegemite is enhanced on hot toasted flourless rye bread without butter.

 

Very relevant.

 

Agreed.

 

Concept art

 

This starts of with one saying he had a prequel in mind. Thank goodness that didn't happen.