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Mini Series Cad Bane in TBOBF (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Completed Shows' started by DannyD, Feb 2, 2022.

  1. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Chosen One star 7

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    Yes but the key difference was that Anakin was the main protagonist in the first 3 films.

    And Kylo Ren just proves my point. I didn’t buy his redemption at all. He killed Han Solo, and we did not get to know him at all before he was evil.
     
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  2. Cos Palpatine

    Cos Palpatine Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I agree, I think the ST might have benefitted by having Ep 7 begin with Ben still a good guy. Still, I don't know if they'd be able to convincingly fit a fall and redemption in three movies seeing as it took Anakin a trilogy to fall and another to be redeemed. I did like how they made Kylo Ren tempted by the light side tho, that was an interesting flip by the writers.

    As for Cad Bane I feel he had a fitting death in an unfortunately mediocre series (IMO) but that he's definitely still alive. Normally I hate false deaths as it undercuts the impact of the death but since it happened in a mediocre series (again, IMO) I don't care so much and am sorta looking forward to seeing him again.
     
  3. Jedi Knight Fett

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    Kylo just cemented the meaning behind the entire saga. Redemption is possible so long as your not palpatine
     
  4. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Chosen One star 7

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    No, Anakin already did that. My argument isn’t that it’s not possible. It’s just that it’s hard to pull of in a convincing way for every character.
     
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  5. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Palpatine sits on shoulders and manipulates souls to his side. He is always above and ahead. Palpatine isn't redeemable, because he is technically the devil. And loves every minute of it.
     
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  6. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    Cad Bane behind the scenes.
     
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  7. Bor Mullet

    Bor Mullet Force Ghost star 7

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    Of course it was practical. What reason would there be to make that suit CGI? It's a cowboy outfit with some tubes and vambraces.
     
  8. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    And it looked practical... not sure how anyone could think it was CG.
     
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  9. Krueger

    Krueger Chosen One star 5

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    I was sure the face was CGI. Amazing.
     
  10. godisawesome

    godisawesome Skywalker Saga Undersheriff star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    The face had *micro-expressions,* which I think my generation is predisposed to think are more reliably conveyed by CGI than puppetry… but we got bamboozled by damn good puppetry!
     
  11. The Shadow Emperor

    The Shadow Emperor Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I've noticed in rewatches that Bane never blinks. Not even once. Boba didn't need the gaffi stick, all he needed to do was kick some sand in his eyes and it'd be all over.
     
  12. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Wait, what?

    ...WHAT?!

    I was looking at a puppet...

    WHAT

    Is this... is this how the previous generation felt when they were marveling at this stuff?

    Huh...
     
  13. Django Fett

    Django Fett Force Ghost star 5

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    They started with Planet of the Apes and continued with Chewie, the improvements they've made over 50 years to prosthetic masks and facial appliances means the use of CGI for situations like Cad Bane are largely redundant. The advantage you get from the natural expression of the actors performing against the creature performers just can't be replicated with an image created in a computer.
     
  14. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Either practical has got so good that people think its CGI. Or the alternative. CGI has got so good by today's standards that they can't tell the difference.
     
  15. TaradosGon

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    I don’t think the number of films really makes a difference, IMO.

    From 1983 to 1999 we didn’t know Anakin before the fall, and the redemption still worked for me.

    It’s motive.

    We didn’t have to know Vader before he fell, but we could understand Luke’s kindness and a father’s love for his son.

    With Kylo, he kills his father, even though he doesn’t really want to, and he worships his grandfather and it never really is conveyed as to why, beyond he really wants to be evil even though he has doubts. And then when he’s redeemed its by someone unexpected.

    I can understand a parents’ love for their child and vice versa, but I can’t really relate to or comprehend a girl showing never ending compassion to a guy that has done nothing but torment her and abuse her.

    With Bane there has been no indication that he really cares about anything except money. I don’t think redemption is in the cards for someone like that. They redeemed Han but it was established early on that deep down he cared. Cad doesn’t seem to. But if money is all that drives him it does open the opportunity that he could fight on the good side so long as they pay him well.

    I think in Tales of the Bounty Hunters Leia makes a suggestion to Boba about working for the Rebels as a business transaction. I thought that was a cool idea as a kid.


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  16. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 5

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    I wonder if the Cad Bane mask uses the breather tubes to hide cables and motors that moved the facial expressions?
     
  17. Jedi Knight Fett

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    I should have worded it better. It connected the sequels to the main theme of the original 6.
     
  18. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 6

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    Even if this is all we see of him in live action, Cad Bane was great. If he is still alive it could make for intresting storytelling.
    Bad Batch tv show will Probably continnue to use him as their main bounty hunter villain, maybe show early partnership with Bane and Boba. The only other live action i could see him in is Andor, Lando or Mandalorian if he is still alive. Maybe show him not working for the empire but the criminal syndicates.
     
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