Senate The Canadian Politics Thread

This is kind of ridiculous. "Even if no one is offended, it's still offensive."

I'm not defending the guy, btw. I just don't care about this and think it's odd how so many SJWs shout racism and offensive when the people that these situations are often pertinent to don't care in many cases.

I understand why it's offensive in US culture. But I don't think this case warrants the accusations of racism or whatnot.

 

Your country isn't so much better about race than the US.

God I hate when Canadians think their history is perfect.

 

Which is not the point Ezio was making at all.

 

Canada, as do most Western countries, has it's own history of blackface.

And even if it didn't, it has a history of colonialism and slavery and genocide and the oppression of non-Europeans. Trudeau's portrayal-- playing a Jamaican stereotype, playing an Orientalist caricature of an Arab person-- is still clearly treating people of color as less than him. And it matters because he continues following that mindset.

 

This matters to people who aren't SJWs? Interesting.

 

Yes yes, saying "SJW" over and over invalidates all reasonable arguments.

 

Here's another thing: calling everything racist also helps undermine real acts of racism.

It seems to me that the vocal majority of people who find racism in everything aren't even part of the groups they're claiming offense on the behalf of.

Also, what minority groups are genuinely offended by this? Are your minority friends or family offended?

 

I can imagine Jagmeet Singh is genuinely offended. Liberal politicians have said it's wrong, though of course they also have to tout their leader's diversity bona fides.

And while anecdotal evidence is really stupid, yes, I do know a couple of people of color who are offended. Not many people I know even pay attention to Canadian politics.

 

Yes, Ezio, it matters that the leader of my country engaged in acts that suggest my race is a lesser one, as Guy said.

Perhaps you're not aware, and I don't blame you since you're in the US, but the leader of the NDP party, Jagmeet Singh, is a brown man.

Ah yes, all those black people in BLM are definitely not black!

 

Perhaps I'm not as sensitive as others. I've experienced racism first hand, both in Canada and the United States. This event from decades ago doesn't seem malicious enough or relevant enough to irk me.

But I'll concede that others obviously feel differently.

However, as I understand it, BLM was based on drawing awareness to police brutality towards a specific demographic. Comparing that with this is absurd.

 

I don't think it was malicious either. But it was stupid and ignorant. And it's part of an ignorant pattern, from the blackface rendition of "Day O" in high school, to his full black-bodied video, his Arabian Nights get-up, to his India trip where he was just way to comfortable cosplaying his way around the country. Sure, there was no makeup that time, but there was an ease at which he just stepped into the aesthetic of another culture. There's this cluelessness that still hangs around him.

I think he's sincere when he apologizes. I think he mostly understands how he's hurt people seeing these pictures. You're not one of the hurt people, Ezio, but anecdotally, I do have some pretty hurt friends from a number of backgrounds. I also have a bunch of friends who don't give a flying **** about this, or who are fauxtraged by this. And I have a lot of friends defending him. I'm mostly annoyed at his stupidity. I was 13 and he was 29 in 2001. I knew better, he should've known better. He could've owned up to this sometime since becoming an MP, turned it into a learning moment, but he didn't and now this is the election.

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Yeah - we get the occasional 'black face' story in the press here (also someone dressing as a Nazi for a party). I'm white, so not a person of color. However there's a different between doing stuff like this twenty years ago and doing it yesterday. I'm sure we all did stuff when we were younger that we'd be ashamed of now. But that long ago we didn't have Twitter or FB for someone to call us out on it at the time.

 

Give him a break. The Jazz Singer had just come out!

 

I mainly just think this is one of the many, many reasons Trudeau can be a toolbag, frankly.

 

I'm just gonna go ahead and say here that this isn't a question of "sensitivity." To imply that people who have a problem with this are somehow sensitive and you're tougher is insulting to be very honest and feeds into this idea that calling out racist stuff is somehow weakness. It's not.

 

Canadians polls react to blackface with shrug

Maxine Bernier says isn't Trump then wants to build a border fence. Also Doug Ford's widow is running too. Yay just what the world needs, more Ford.

And finally

 

Entirely shocked that white progressives don't care about a progressive idol doing something racist.

 

I got a sign for my local NDP candidate and volunteered to drive people to vote on election day.

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People forgetting that Trudeau is the government they're protesting

 

He is a talented actor. He should be in a Star Wars movie.

 

Why an insurance broker?