We all have some we dislike, don't we? A concept that has been used too many times (even if it is often thought by the author to be Something Completely Different) and stands little chance of being successfully revamped and made intriguing and likeable. Now, we can discuss Mary Sues, what makes Mary Sues, a Mary Sue plot, transforming a canon character into someone else (the infamous Luke Sue and Obi-Wan Sue). Anything and everything that will make you seriously consider not reading a story if it appears in the summary. If you dislike a certain general theme in "Obi-Wan finds romance," discuss. If you think "a girl from Earth" could never, ever, ever become a good character, say so. But this isn't just for bashing elements-- The more important thing is, can they be fixed? How can we turn Mary Sue into someone human (or alien)? What or who put a new spin on the "Qui-Gon survives Naboo" AU angle? Any examples of elements used to excess? Any suggestions on how to turn old to new? Any recommendations? Let's all help each other.