PT "Count Dooku was once a Jedi. He couldn't assassinate anyone."

Jango is a bounty hunter , they work for whoever hires them , the separatists are a big new player in town so its hardly surprising that he'd get a job with them

 

I always LOL at Mace saying that just shows you how the Jedi by that time become clouded in their views.

 

How? Dooku was once a Jedi and assassination is not the Jedi way. Mace knew him for decades, better than Padmé. It's completely understandable that Mace would make that statement, specially considering the evidence (or lack thereof) against him.

 

I agree that the Jedi's vision was clouded, not only because the Dark Side was rising in the galaxy, but because they themselves were growing darker. They really thought they'd know if one of them was operating on the Dark Side (they thought they'd sense it in the Force). And they continually are behind in the game because they are always being surprised by how the situation with the Dark Side and those using it is even worse than they previously thought. They're in the worst case scenario but they aren't really thinking of worst case scenarios it seems.

 

To be fair, Jango's dual employment is more than a little suspicious and probably struck the Jedi so, but what exactly could they do about it? Mace carelessly killed Jango, so they couldn't exactly question him about any of it. At that point, you're right, what conclusion could the Jedi possibly draw other than that it was a hugely ironic coincidence? The real truth is not something anyone in-universe probably could ever have guessed, since it's such a shocking and unlikely conspiracy with so many different moving parts. And the entire conspiracy revolves around the notion that the Republic will fall from within while the Jedi abandon their principles and damn themselves to destruction; two things the Jedi are steadfastly unwilling to believe are even remote possibilities.

 

And how many people are going to believe that their own head of state is the power behind the other side? How many people take 9/11 truthers seriously? If I went on tv and said, "George W. Bush is the leader of
the Illuminati and he personally talked Bin Laden into forming Al-Qaeda and 9/11", how many people would believe me?

 

That Mace sure likes to cut off heads first and ask questions never. Somebody probably had cam footage of him on the Holonet titled "Jedi Brutality".

 

No, they weren't "growing darker". Being oblivious doesn't mean being dark.

 

Donald Trump and Alex Jones.

 

They were fighting battles (on offense) and were even pretty bureaucratic. Yoda noted more and more Jedi were becoming arrogant. That's the kind of stuff I was using as evidence. It doesn't mean they are bad guys, but they are not being true to their own way and it may interfere with how clearly they can see (the light is tainted). If they can't see the traces of the Dark Side (small as they are) growing within their own order, how can they hope to see what's happening to the galaxy?

They conspired with a Sith Lord to conquer the galaxy. They couldn't sense him. But he got them to act in ways they normally wouldn't (they accepted the tainted role he gave them).

I'm also kind of reminded of Coruscant. The Jedi's tower is lofty and overlooks everything, but the city goes down very deep and the deeper it goes the more crime goes on. It's rotten at its heart. I think this kind of represents what's happening to the galaxy; and the heart of the Republic is now rotten too. The Jedi aid in the process of rot essentially using the Light to serve the Dark and they have no idea. Their actions make them darker automatically.

 

This is very on point. There's a recurring visual motif in the prequels underscoring the idea that there's a potentiality of rottenness lurking beneath every glittering facade. In Episode II, you see it during the opening speeder chase. The Jedi start off chasing a beautiful woman through the dizzying heights of a dazzling metropolis, and end up in a trash-strewn alleyway in the underlevels cradling the corpse of a hideous monster.

e: Zam's transformation prefigures that of Palpatine in Episode III. It also foreshadows Padme's death, the fall of the Republic, and the birth of Darth Vader. In all cases, something attractive and appealing ultimately transforms and assumes a face of death.

 

Where did I hear that the Jedi thought Jango being the template for the Clone Army and Dooku erasing Kamino from the archives was a ploy by the Separatists to steal the army for themselves thus explaining in the Jedi's minds the Jango connection?

 

They were protecting the Republic from the Separatists. Have you not seen AotC? And "bureaucratic"? How?

Yes, some Jedi have become arrogant. A flaw acknowledged by one of their own. Is that even enough to say that they are "growing darker"?

If they can't see their flaws, then how can you quote Yoda on such acknowledgment?

What the...?!

Because he was doing everything to not be sensed. The dark side.

Yes, by creating a bogus war and leaving the Jedi no other choice but to fight to protect the Republic they serve.

That's an oxymoron. Their actions are the opposite of dark. Not to mention the ludicrious attempt to blame the Jedi for the actions of criminals in the Republic. The Jedi are the only ones who are still doing anything about it. That's like blaming the police for the criminal's actions.

 

They are fighting a war with mission objectives as though they are military. Maybe they think it's defense, but it's actually attack (they show up with starships full of clones and do a lot of killing in their efforts to control the fate of the galaxy). Especially in the Clone Wars cartoon do they do this. The Jedi are now Generals, leading military operations, leading armies. All this after Mace says the Jedi are "keepers of the peace not soldiers." I suspect the meaning of "keepers of the peace" has been evolving over the years, and by the PT it is nearly the same thing as waging war.

Darth Sidious conquers the galaxy and he uses the Jedi to help him do it. That they are unwitting in this does not change that killing and violence are dark deeds (nor does it change that they are serving a dark purpose).

The Jedi are also highly involved with the government. If they were not such bedfellows with the government, Palpatine would not have been able to get so much access to Anakin so easily. The Jedi themselves have become basically an organization with a governing body.

No, he is saying it's becoming increasingly common. It is a troubling trend (Yoda himself is troubled by it).

It's not about finding their flaws; it's about exploring how they can't see what is happening at any level. There are signs they may observe (such as the trend of Jedi becoming increasingly arrogant), but the larger picture eludes them even though the feeling that something is wrong is growing. But not even Yoda can quite put his finger on it.

He was. But I think the other part of this is that the Jedi have been very gradually losing their way (it began before the prequels) and with that they lose perception. Sidious and Yoda are equally powerful. He doesn't have the ability to shroud all of the Jedi in darkness so they can't perceive what is happening in the galaxy (as in, perceive in the Force). He has the ability to hide himself from them, but he's not responsible for their losing vision to the point where they consider telling the Senate their ability to use the Force has diminished. Sidious is not the only cause of their blindness. If I'm blind and you have made yourself invisible, sure I couldn't see you if I could see, but the more pressing point is I can't see... anything.

And it goes really beyond this even. The entire galaxy is shifting more towards the Dark Side. Sidious pulls the strings, but there was already so much darkness there for him to exploit (the time is ripe for the Sith to return basically).

There is always a choice. In any case the Jedi were not serving further peace or justice. They were serving war. You could ask what were they supposed to do instead but I wasn't trying to cast judgment of that sort on them; simply trying to observe what was happening.

For instance one way to go darker is to increasingly sacrifice means for ends. Voting emergency powers to the Chancellor to get an army to fight off the Separtists is very end-serving. Jedi who had turned were behind the creation of the clone army in the first place and erased stuff from their own archives to hide it. The beauty is that Palpatine didn't make them do any of these things, he guides them and they do it for him.

None of this is denying that the Jedi were in a difficult situation.

I was not blaming them for the crime in the Republic nor was I saying the Jedi were as dark as you seem to be indicating. It's like a drop of ink in a glass of water (eventually all the water may turn cloudy in color, but there's still barely any ink in it). Still, that's enough to make it more difficult to see through.

I'm not really sure if our communication gap can be bridged.

 

With Jango you have the issue that out of a galaxy's worth of bounty hunters, it just so happens that this guy gets picked for these two unrelated job by mere chance.
The odds would be astronomical.

But it goes way beyond Jango.
1) The Jedi KNOW that their files have been tampered with and Kamino removed.
This is clearly connected to the clone army so obviously someone wants to hide this from the Jedi.
They also know that ONLY a Jedi could have done this so clearly one of their own is involved in this.

2) The order for the clone army was placed almost ten years ago, seemingly at the request of the senate and apparently by a Jedi Master Sifo-Dyas.
But ten years ago, as far as the films go, there were no seps threat. So someone placed an order for an army and it is ready just as the senate is actually debating a republic army. Very convenient.

3) To add to this, the senate never ok such army and the JC knew nothing about it.
So the order is at best illegal.
And to make even more suspicious, the Jedi have info that suggests that Sifo-Dyas was already dead when the army was ordered. Meaning that in addition to illegal, we can now add "Ordered under a false name" to the growing list of shady things with the clone army.

4) Bringing it back to Jango, not only does he work for Dooku, the very enemy that the clone army will be used against. He also has never heard of Sifo-Dyas and was hired by another person.
Adding more evidence to the "ordered under a false name" theory.
Plus he involved in trying to kill the biggest opponent to the army bill.

5) And speaking of Dooku, he is a former Jedi so he could have tampered with the Jedi files.
He has turned to the dark side and is dealing in treachery and deceit.
Plus Jango works for him.

So to sum up, the Jedi know that Jango works for Dooku, a former Jedi now turned to the dark side. Their archives have been tampered with, proving a Jedi is involved in this.
The order was not ok by the senate and might even have been made under a false name.

And yet the Jedi talks about none of this and seemingly have zero questions about the clone army or have any inkling that they are being played.

Related to this, part of the reason why I doubt Palpatine planned to lead the Jedi to Kamino and then to Geonosis and all that.
If Padme had died in that first bomb, the Jedi would not know anything about Jango or Kamino or Sifo-Dyas possibly not ordering it or all of what I mentioned above.

Nute would be happy and would join Dooku and the seps army would get ready and delivered to the TF.
The army bill would pass and Dooku could use that as a propaganda for his cause.
"Look the Republic is planning to keep us in the republic by Force!"
The clone army is ready and the Kamino people contacts the senate and Palpatine lets the senate know about it plus alerting Dooku.
Dooku unveils his new droid army and either makes a threat or attacks, the senate panics and the war starts.

So not only does Palpatine not need to lead the Jedi anywhere, by NOT doing this, the Jedi would have a whole lot less reasons to smell a rat and would thus be more accepting of the clone army.
This is a GOOD thing for Palpatine as he does NOT want the Jedi asking questions about it.

The only reasons I can think for Palpatine doing this is either an odd sense of fair play, that he has to give the Jedi a chance to foil his plans or it would not be sporting.
Or that he thinks they are such morons that it doesn't matter how many hints and leads he gives them, they will not be able to figure it out so he does this only to laugh at the Jedi being dumb.

Bye for now.
Blackboard Monitor

 

He gets a job working for the Separatists , this is actually very likely as they are a rapidly expanding new society of planets , he's a merc , they'd have hired lots of bounty hunters , mercs etc. .

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I had thought he didn't intend to kill Padme because he needs her to help turn Anakin. He knows enough of how she uses decoys to figure out she wasn't on the ship. The bomb is what he uses to convince the Jedi to assign her a protector; he suggests Obi-Wan (knowing Anakin will then be there too). Escorting Padme everywhere is easily assigned to Anakin > Obi-Wan eventually because it's a small job a Padawan can handle.

I thought that he wanted the Jedi to find Kamino while he's creating a situation that will make them believe they have no choice other than to use the clone army they just conveniently discovered. This makes it seem like Palpatine had nothing to do with that army. He didn't even propose he get emergency powers. Everyone just does this for him so it doesn't look like he's trying to take over.

 

I just love it that Ki Adi Mundi is always wrong

 

????
Where in the films is anything like this established?
The seps are forming a new union of sorts and building up a DROID army, not a mercenary one.
At no point are any other mercs or bounty hunters ever mentioned. Excluding Zam.
Jango was assigned Padme because Dooku knew him since he hired him to be the template.

As I've said, the seps have built up a big droid army so why would they need mercs?
They have plenty of soldiers and they expect a quick victory over the republic as they think it is weak.
Why would they need mercs when they are allying the various systems with the TF, Banking clan etc?
The TF and co all have their own armies and now they are being united under one command plus they are building new and improved droids on Geonosis.

If anything, since the republic is the one who is feeling threatened, they would more likely be looking to hire mercs and the like. They are debating an army bill but an army will take time to train and build up. So mercs, being already trained, would be useful.

So again, to the Jedi, they have to consider the unlikely odds that Jango just happened to get picked for these unrelated jobs by mere chance.

@oncafar

Lots of assumptions here.
First, while I can buy that Palpatine knows about Anakin's obsession towards Padme, he has no idea if she is interested in him. If she turns him down then she can't be of use in this regard.
But if he knows that Anakin is infatuated with Padme and she gets killed, this could make Anakin unstable and make him interested in this "stop death" power that Palpatine tries to sell him later.
He might even think that because Anakin is so infatuated with Padme, he will say or do something that causes a scene and Padme throws them out and thus she is less protected.
With any other Jedi this will not happen but he could be counting on Anakin making an ass of himself and causing problems.
This even happens as Padme turns off the cameras in her room because Anakin creeped her out.

Second, even if Palpatine assumes that Padme would use a decoy and this also assumes that he know that a bomb would be used. A bomb is not specific, it sends shrapnel all over the place and if a piece hits Padme, she could die.

Third, Padme is an obstacle to the army bill and her death has been promised to Nute, who is important to the seps.
So NOT killing Padme could cause Nute to leave the seps, which would weaken them. And her continued opposition to the army bill delays his plans.
So he has two strong reasons to want her dead and no real reason not to.
That he orders her off planet is just him thinking on his feet and getting rid of her opposition to the army bill.

Fourth, Palpatine would not know if the second hit would have killed Padme or that the Jedi would be able to track down Zam. Had Zam used a more logical weapon, like a bomb, gun or gas, Padme would be dead. And had she put a self-destruct device in the droid, Obi-Wan would be dead and Zam would have escaped.

First, consider that Palpatine and Dooku set the army in motion ten years before AotC.
Did they already have this plan in mind?
"Yes, ten years from now, Nute will want Padme dead and you will assign Jango the job and he will hire another bounty hunter. The hit will fail and Jango will kill this other bounty hunter with this dart and I will put Obi-Wan on the job because he knows a guy that can ID it. This will lead him to Kamino."
I really doubt it.

Instead the plan was simple, the Kamino people thinks the senate ordered this army and they will eventually contact the senate about it.
Palpatine is not connected in any way. The order was placed by a Jedi who acted alone and without ok from the senate. At least this is how it would seem.
So not only does he have built in deniability, this also makes the Jedi look shady as one of their own did this.
And without the info that Obi-Wan got from Kamino, the Jedi don't know about Sifo-Dyas possibly being dead before the order, that Jango hasn't heard of him or any of that stuff. So they have much less of a reason to question the clone army.

As for the senate, if Dooku shows off his new army and issues an ultimatum, "Give in to our demands or we'll crush you." The senate will likely panic and Palpatine can have some of his stooges in the senate propose what ever he needs.

In all, this plan is simpler, less convoluted, less reliant on things Palpatine could not know or be able to control and is thus far more sensible.

Bye for now.
Blackboard Monitor

 

I personally like how everything is ambiguous. You could chalk it up to sloppy writing and in some instances, I think that may be true, but I like the fact that one can watch AOTC and come up with their own interpretation as to why the events unfold as they do.

Personally, I feel Padme suspects Dooku, because she suspects that Dooku wants a full-scale war. That's why he wanted her assassinated from her pov. It's a slightly undercooked plot point, but in the scheme of things the dialogue in that scene only serves the purpose of casting some ambiguity upon Dooku. As far as Jango leading the Jedi to Kamino...that could go either way. I think it's interesting thinking about such a convoluted scheme going into motion and being as effective as it was. If Jango didn't intend on leading the Jedi to Kamino, then why use such a giant bread crumb for them? A laser blast would have sufficed in the killing of Zam, but he used a toxic dart, which could be traced back to Kamino. So personally, I'm of the opinion that it was a deliberate act by Jango. It's also possible had that plan not worked, Palpatine would have contacted the Kamino people and informed them that it was time to contact the Jedi. There's really multiple avenues in which this could be accomplished, and like I said earlier, it's fun being able to personalize your own experience with the film. It's never explained, which allows your imagination to run wild.

 

He can probably sense Anakin's thoughts. Padme has been hanging over him for years (it's a source of turmoil). I don't even want to think about how much time Palpatine has spent meditating on Anakin either or all the stuff he's learned about him through the Force. So creepy.

She is of use because as Anakin says being around her again is intoxicating. He completely loses his focus. Any of his attachment to Padme that he had been successfully dealing with is awakened like a mad fire and he can't control it. I think what Palpatine wants is for Anakin to do something that will lead him more towards the dark; and well the Sand People thing (which I can't see him anticipating that?) exceeded his expectations. He can't assume that Anakin and Padme will fall for one another, though I am sure he thinks this is a possibility. I don't think that Palpatine always counts on certain things happening, but he plays the possibilities very well. He senses this is a good time to cause a collision between Anakin and Padme, even if he doesn't know what the specific outcome will be. He senses that the outcome (whatever it is) will likely serve him nicely.

ETA: it's also that he has an immediate problem (Padme) and he knows that Anakin is obsessed with Padme, so he creates a win-win out of this situation. He gets her out of the way by using her to make Anakin even more unstable.

That's fair. I don't think that he was opposed necessarily to Padme getting killed in all of this. I just don't think he wanted her to die in the initial assassination attempt. He wanted it to be clear her life was in danger so he can spin Anakin towards her. It's also in a way an indirect threat: back off what you're doing in the Senate or else. It's easy enough for him to get rid of her after she survives (she must be sent away for her own protection and her influence is removed from the Senate).

They're both from Naboo and worked closely together politically. He could have even advised her to be careful and use her decoys. He could have also told Dooku that he wants it to be clear that it's an assassination attempt, but that she needs to survive it. He can't guarantee she won't do something that will get her killed anyway (but she is just one possibility he's playing).

The attempts were made though. And made again on Geonosis. It ends up looking like Padme is this annoying person who just won't die despite well orchestrated attempts. Gunray has experience with her so he knows what a pain in the rear she is. It's not surprising that the trend continues.

I didn't think he was thinking in a way where these specific little outcomes must be guaranteed. Once he assigns the Jedi to Padme, especially since Anakin is involved and knowing Padme's character, he knows they will try to solve the plot of who is after her. She thinks it's Dooku and she's not going to let that go (she doesn't let these things go in general). Anakin will play into her hands because he's obsessed with her.

The only thing I think Palpatine needs in this is that when the Jedi finally do find Dooku and the Separtist plot, at the point of desperation, that's when they need to have already found the clone army. He can't suggest using the army himself, he can't look like he ever knew about it. The Jedi have to play this card for him. How he knew this would work, I don't know. But I also think he will adapt to changing circumstances as well because he plays the possibilities well as situations change. It's crucial that the Jedi play a major role in starting the war imo because he needs them to betray their own principles so as to weaken them further.

The army was created to conquer the galaxy when the time is right. And of course it takes time to grow the clones. By the time there are finally enough mature clones, Palpatine needs to have created enough unrest in the galaxy to convince the Republic to use them. That's all. I think it was always preferable though for it to be the idea of the Jedi. He can't look like he had anything to do with it.

Mainly I think that Palpatine is a strong visionary with the Force. He uses his visions constantly. But he's aware that the future is always in motion and so he's always playing possible futures, yet he's quite adept at sensing when to move certain pieces on the board to gradually narrow all the possibilities to the outcome in which he conquers the galaxy and Sith rule returns.

Like Yoda, he can't see too many guarantees in the future, but manipulating the future is his special talent. However, by RotJ he actually has gone off the deep end and now seems to think that what he foresees is far more guaranteed than it's reasonable to believe. He's mad with power.

 

didn't say they were using a merc army , but they'd certainly use mercs , bounbty hunters etc.
so you don't think the separatists would use mercs / bounty hunters etc. ??

of course they would .

the seps have yet to achieve a strong position , there would be all sorts of conflicts before the war so naturally they're gonna use mercs for various things like assassinations etc. .

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Yes, as I said, I can buy that Palpatine knows how Anakin feels but not how Padme will react towards him.

Which could explain why Palpatine assigns him and Obi-Wan.
Anakin won't be able to think straight and could cause Obi-Wan to be distracted with him and thus Padme has less protection and she dies.
This could add to Anakin's fear of loss and certainly something Palpatine had more control over than the Tusken thing.
Plus it might embarrass the Jedi and make the public loose faith in them.

But the reason why I object to the idea "Palpatine planned EVERYTHING in AotC" is that the only way that plan makes any sense is if Palpatine KNOWS exactly what will happen all the time.
He KNOWS that Zam will fail, the Jedi chase her and get her but Jango kills her. That Obi-Wan knows how to ID the dart even when all info has been purged from the Jedi archives. Etc.

To me, Palpatine makes overall plans but those plans are flexible and his great strength is thinking on his feet and adapting his plans to new situations.
Like in TPM, he didn't plan for Padme to escape and reach Coruscant but when she did, he adapted and turned the situation to his advantage.

So when he assigns Anakin and Obi-Wan, he doesn't know that Padme will live.
As you say, he might be thinking in terms of back ups.
If she dies, that serves him well but if she lives, that is something he can also spin to his advantage.

Here I don't agree.
If he didn't want her dead why wouldn't he make that clear to those that carried out the job.
Zam and Jango work for money, they won't care if the order is to kill Padme or just scare her.
And if he really wanted her alive it makes better sense to tell them that as then they won't screw up by actually killing her.
Plus as I've said, her opposition to the army bill and the promise to Nute are strong reasons to kill her.

Again, a bomb is not precise. The blast knocks Padme down and she easily could have been hit by shrapnel and been killed.
Also, if Palpatine knew she would use a decoy and not be on the ship, if the bomb was onboard the ship, which the scene suggest, why not have the ship blow up in space?
Less chance of collateral damage and less evidence.

Again unless Palpatine knows everything that will happen, he can not plan to not kill her as that will work counter to his goals.

See above, the "Palpatine planned everything idea" REQUIRES Palpatine to have planned each and every detail in advance.
Also, Padme adds little in the investigation, she never even mentions Dooku to Obi-Wan and Anakin.
She says that she wants to find out who is trying to kill her and yet she for some reason doesn't mention Dooku. Whom she did talk about a short time before.
This would be an ideal time for her to go into detail why she suspects him and they could talk about it.

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First, the idea to use the clone army isn't made by the Jedi.
They find it and lets the senate know of it's existence but they don't suggest it's use.
The senate want to use it because they fear an attack by the seps and so it is passed by Palpatine's extra powers.
The exact same situation would occur if the Kamino contacts the senate and lets them know about the clone army and shortly thereafter, Dooku makes a public threat and shows his droid army.
The senate will react the same way, they are scared and want the clone army and it's use is pushed through by extra powers.

Second, as I've said, the Jedi need to find nothing.
The Kamino people will eventually contact the senate and Dooku can just unveil his army and make threats.
This would be BETTER for Palpatine as the Jedi would have much less info about the clone army and thus less reason to smell a rat.

Third, Palpatine is in no way connected to the clone army.
A Jedi is said to have ordered it and if the Jedi find out second hand, they have no evidence that says otherwise. That the Kamino contacts the senate and lets them know the army is ready, Palpatine can just let the senate know this and act all innocent. He isn't implicated at all.
And if Dooku makes a public threat, he can just let the senators do what they did in the film, want the clone army but realize that it would take too long and given him powers to push it through.

To sum up, Palpatine has no need for the Jedi to do anything here.
The army becomes know when the Kamino contacts the senate, the need for it becomes clear when Dooku makes a threat. And after the senate clears the clones for use, the Jedi will have little choice but to use them. But if they don't know all the shady things they know in the film, they will have less reason to find it fishy.

@gezvader28

So no actual evidence then, just stuff you think might be happening.
Sorry, doesn't cut it.
If no on-screen evidence exists of wide use of mercs by the seps then the only Merc that is hired by them is Jango and we are back to low odds.

Bye for now.
The Guarding Dark

 

so you actually believe that the only 2 mercs the seps employed were Jango and Sam ?

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that makes no sense . They've yet to develop an army , the Republic has the Jedi , the Seps will need to be involved in various nefarious things to affect the political situation , to gain what they want etc. , just think about the real world - Mercs are used al the time by factions that are breaking away . "a galaxy's worth of bounty hunters" as you put it - where do you think they get jobs ?

And you still haven't explained why it would be so wildly improbable that Jango would get a job with the seps .

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First, these discussions work like this, you make the claim, you back it up.
So if you want to argue that the seps hired loads of mercs, you have to prove it.
And just saying what you imagine happened is not evidence.

Second, you seem to have forgotten things from the film.
The main players of the seps, the TF, Commerce Guild, Techno Union etc, they all HAVE armies.
So the seps are not really creating a new army as combining the armies of the various factions into one big army.
So the seps have no need for mercs as they already have lots of soldiers.

The one that would need mercs would be the republic as it has no soldiers apart from the Jedi.
And the Jedi, as the film shows, when faced with big odds, they get overwhelmed.

Third, you mention real world, imagine if China and Russia made a military alliance.
Would they need to hire loads of mercs?
No, because both countries already have big armies and all they need to do is co-ordinate their armed forces.

Lastly, why is Jango getting hired for these two jobs by mere chance unlikely?
Ex, take a deck of cards and pull a card at random. Say it is the ten of spades.
Put it back, shuffle the deck and pull another card at random.
The odds that you pull the ten of spades again is 1/52 or a little less than 2% chance.
So not very likely.
Now imagine that you have 5000 cards instead. Now the odds drop down to 0,02%.
VERY unlikely.
And finally imagine that you have half a million cards. Now the odds are an abysmal 0,0002%
which is extremely low odds.

That is why the odds of Jango, out of a galaxy's worth of mercs, getting picked for these two unrelated jobs just by mere chance is so very unlikely that the Jedi are morons for ignoring it.

Bye for now.
Blackboard Monitor