ST Critics' reviews for Star Wars: The Last Jedi

I totally agree. ESB handled darkness and subversion with ease and complexity. When this fails it just comes across as pretentious.

 

The Empire Strikes Back subversion = have the large battle at the beginning, and allow the movie to brilliantly taper off into a terrifying and intimate character drama, complete with a heart-stopping revelation.

The Last Jedi subversion = ignore all plot points from previous movies, have a chase / not-chase and a battle / not-battle. Oh, and have established characters do wacky and unexpected things. That'll show 'em!

Only good bit...

 

I always wanted there to be a mathematical theorem, like Fermat's Last Theorem, that the Brandenburg Concertos could not mathematically be praised highly enough.

 

Most People on here when TLJ came out Loved it a loud minority didn't like it. all of my friends and family loved it. this notion that people didn't like TLJ is not true IMHO Solo as well most people on here and my friends and family all loved Solo!

 

There's no way really of quantifying whether the people who dislike The Last Jedi are in the minority or not. In my experience, as time goes on and the excitement of a new Star Wars movie dies down, many, many fans and casual viewers alike have reflected on The Last Jedi a bit more objectively and their assessment ranges from disappointment to outright hostility towards it.

I wasn't on the internet so much during the prequel era, so I can't really say what the reactions to those movies were, but I don't think that there has been as bitterly divisive an installment as Episode 8.

 

I think Box Office says otherwise although that's not always the case Solo underperformed at the box office and most who saw it loved it Star Wars burn out was the problem with Solo I think. A movie comes out in December then again 5 months later a lot of people I talked to didn't even know Solo was out in the theater opening weekend and poor Marketing hurt Solo IMHO only 2 trailers could have used a third trailer and more TV Spots. As for TLJ ITs box office was pretty darn good that many people don't see a film if they hated it you have a lot of repeat viewers but I think the same about Avatar and Titanic two great films there box office speaks for itself Endgame as well now being the top grossing film of all time!

 

Box office isn't an indicator of whether the movie is considered any good. People will have flocked to see it simply because it carries the "Star Wars" moniker. But that isn't an automatic gauge of their opinion of it being positive. I saw it twice at the cinema, because my son wanted to watch it again. I disliked it on both occasions (I actually dozed off during the second viewing)

I don't think it is a particularly good movie, and if you look around on this forum and the wider internet, you will find that there are just as many detractors of The Last Jedi as there are people who think it is great.

Avatar did phenomenally well at the box office as we all know, but ten years on, an objective assessment of that movie away from its own generated hype and flashy 3D effects is that it is rather cheesy and derivative movie. Many critics are less kind to it on reflection.

 

so if one fanboy see's the film 5 times he didn't see it 5 times because he absolutely loved it? that's how these big blockbusters do good fans see it multiple times because they really like it. you can argue a film may have poor box office but its still a good film that I will buy.

 

Well I didn't bring box office into this, you did remember? You also made a pretty absolute statement here

That is patently untrue, because whilst many people liked it, many people did not like TLJ.

 

I did say IMHO It wasn't absolute. you didn't copy and paste my whole quote. I will bring up that there was a fan on here years ago that said even though he hated TPM he saw it 20 times thinking each subsequent time it would get better, it didn't

 

I said IMHO several times and there were polls on here to back up what I am saying. By saying IMHO I am admitting Its just my opinion I respect other posters opinion.

 

You're right, I'll post the whole statement in the interests of fairness. Post#754

What I was getting at though, even if that is your opinion, is that it is suggests that you don't think anybody disliked it?

I think that there is enough evidence around to suggest that there are many who disliked it?

(Sorry if I am misinterpreting you here)

 

Critics loved The Last Jedi, GREAT FILM!

 

Many did, some didn't. A lot were just so/so about it.

Like everybody else really.

 

Thank you Buzz, VERY COOL!

 

A great proportion of one star content intrinsic to the film is masked by the six, seven and sometimes eleven star reviews, out of five, that celebrate, however rightly you need to laud it, Hamill's tour de force.

 

The problem is that actors, especially in TLJ's case, don't determine anything regarding the story. Much of the time they are beholden to the material that is written and there is only so much you can do in that position if the overall story is not good. I can pretty much always watch AOTC (and every other prequel for that matter) because it is actually an ambitious expansion on not only the setting but also the themes and characters within its own saga in regards to the actual content of its story. TLJ tries the tired routine of convincing the audience that it's pushing things forward while not really doing so. This goes without mentioning the idea that people will pretty much have different views on what good acting was in a certain role and frankly, I've found far more compelling arguments behind Hayden's portrayal of Anakin, for example, than any surrounding the general demeanor and portrayal of say, Finn or Poe and often even Rey.

 

85 score on metacritic, second highest of the Saga! Great honor in such a respected franchise

 

I don't pay attention to Rotten Tomatoes or metacritic scores.

 

Neither do I tbh, but since this is the critic thread it is relevant.