Amph Cue The "Super Friends" Theme! - DC "CW-verse" Discussion

Seems like CW lost one of it's best actors.

 

Darn it! I knew something was up based on his poster placement. This leave Caity as the last original Legend.

 

What happenned to the others, sorry i haven¨t been kept in touch with this.

 

They’ve all left:

The hawks left at the end of Season 1 along with Cold.
Rip was reduced in Seasons 2 and 3 before leaving. Likewise, Stein and Jax also left in Season 3.
Ray left last season and it sounds like Brandon didn’t want to leave- so they screwed him over just like they are doing to Dominic.

So this leaves Sarah Lance and Gideon as the only original members left.

 

it's why i probalry stopped watching all these cw shows, i have force myself to watching them. actors being screwed over and leaves.

 

Praise Beebo! Legends is back on tonight. A bit sad that this will be Mick’s last full season but hopefully he gets a decent send off.

 

I legit forgot that Legends is premiering tonight. I am pumped for whatever shenanigans they throw our way this season.

Looking forward to seeing what they do with Astra; I really liked her arc last season.

 

Aww about Mick, I knew something was up given how limited his role was in the past several episodes.

Either way Legends is still my favorite of the Arrowverse.

Also am enjoying Superman & Lois, but it is still too early for me to say how much.

 

Can I just say in re: last week's episode of Lois and Superman just how much of a fantastic relationship Clark and Lois have? It's possibly the healthiest relationship on the CW (low bar maybe)... but no secrets, trusting each other, etc...

 

Yeah, I am waiting for the moment when Lois will say We are Superman

 

It honestly is refreshing. It also is refreshing to see them interact with the teenagers on the show how people interact in the real world with teenagers. Also that the teen angst for the most part has been at appropriate times and not for the sake of drama.

I honestly have yet to be disappointed in this show.

 

Screw Jesus, Beebo Will Be the Savior of Christmas This Year

EDIT: Beebo animated Christmas special!

 

That sounds perfect! I need a cameo by the Queen of Christmas (Mariah Carey).

[Obligatory: All hail Beebo!]

 

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I was actually sitting there and turned to Mav and said " I know they said Luthor but he's really acting more like John Henry Irons " when he was engineering with his daughter...

 

Yeah, nothing's gonna beat Reeve for me, but this is easily second-best.

 

Man, every clip just reminds me this show seriously cannot come to eastern European Netflix soon enough.

 

I was a little confused with the most recent Superman & Lois episode for a bit

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is he Steel or Lex until the one line at the end "The suit is still set for Lex Luthor!" which answered the whole "Captain Luthor" AI thing. I guess they wanted a twist like the Hank Hensaw/Martian Manhunter twist early on in Supergirl. Although I will say when John dismissed Clark as a nobody that felt very Luthor to me. Still, Steel! So I'm guessing he'll be evil Steel for a bit and then by the end he'll be Good Guy Steel. Slow roll, maybe not even this season. Cuz it would be weird if Steel was the baddie for the whole series.

I've been enjoying this unbroken string of Super-people shows since Superman & Lois premiered cuz it rolled right into Supergirl and then right back into S&L and then apparently back into Supergirl in August. Supergirl was okay for it's return run, Lex had a great courtroom rant, some time travel shenanigans with uncannily cast younger versions (aside from Young Kat, actress had the vibe but didn't look exactly like 2000s era Calista Flockhart). The start of the season kinda felt like a Supergirl spin-off pitch showcase as Melissia Benoist is on mostly maternity leave by sticking her in the Phantom Zone for a scene or two every episode. But with the most recent revelations in Superman and Lois I hope that clears the runaway to easily integrate Lex into the show when Supergirl ends (and he got frequently named dropped in the last episode too)

 

That reveal was so good and fits perfectly with what we knew and what the others shows had already set up regarding alternate earth versions of people. This is easily my favourite show at the moment.

 

The reveal was perfect.

I was suspicious first when:

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Natalie was introduced. My knowledge of Steel is EXTREMLY limited, but I do still remember the animated series when Steel had a niece and I thought her name was Natalie. So when they started working on the suit, I started to wonder. But that Hammer reveal was amazing!

Honestly, Superman and Lois is the best thing DC has done in ages. I just hope they don't blow it. Stargirl was also very good so I hope that continues strong when it returns.

And as always, Legends never fails to disappoint me.

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Gary is an alien! Of course he is! And of course he doesn't like eating people!
Zari has to save the world by beating another alien in a singing competition? Of course.

And Mick! Mick manages to nearly start world war 3 before saving everyone and getting off to retrieve Sarah. I'm so going to miss Mick when he leaves the ship.

Supergirl wasn't bad. I wasn't really a fan of the reason for the flashback.

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You would think by now Lena would have some spare Supergirl DNA somewhere. Not to mention the DEO- which I guess is truly gone based on what Legends showed us. I did like the flashback though. I thought young Cat Grant showed however why the show has suffered with her absence. While J'onn has been a great father figure, he just wasn't the same mentor that Cat Grant was to Kara. She pushed the human side of Kara in a way that no other character has done since. In fact, Kara is mostly Supergirl with some occasional reporting. Lena helped for the balance a bit, but even then it wasn't the same as what Cat did. I really wish we could have seen more of Callista before the show ended. I also always wanted Harrison to play Perry for at least one good interaction between the two. Hoping though that someone from Superman and Lois pays Callista for just one cameo where she and Lois can match barbs. I'm glad we're done with the Phantom Zone but honestly have no idea what the rest of the season's plan is.

Which brings me to my criticisms. I think both Supergirl and Flash are just treading water. The stakes aren't being felt here. Supergirl's season honestly feels like they just went with what they wrote to cover for Melissa's pregnancy. I wish they had used the pandemic to come up with something better. The least believable thing about all of this was how long it took to resolve this plot. The Flash had a great concept with all these forces, but it's squandered it. And it can't seem to figure out what it wants to do with Killer Frost and her arc. The handwave at the end was just too much to get behind.

Having said that, I think Black Lightning actually was the worst offender. Between serving as a backdoor pilot for Painkiller (which wasn't picked up) and trying to introduce all these characters- the show basically did nothing with them. The best parts probably were Anissa and Grace and then the entire arc for Jennifer.

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But Lopez just never really did anything until the last episode which... was stupid. And after all this time, the final battle with Jefferson and Tobias was terrible. And not just because of the awful effects. It's just a terrible way to end things. Then, for reasons that elude me, they decide to set up a cliffhanger for a series finale.

Black Lightning had some absolutely brilliant moments. I think it and The Flash along with Supergirl did help these creators learn from past mistakes that, for the most part, they aren't making with Superman and Lois. Though, Jordan not telling Clark things is getting old so I hope that is done.

And as to Batwoman... still feels like the Kate Kane show.

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I do appreciate the progress with Ryan and Sophie and the Cluemaster and Stephanie Brown intro was good. But it feels like the show is trying to be too many things and isn't good at being any of them. And the decision for Sophie to leave the Crows came at the wrong part of the plot. It should have come in this next episode.
Also feels like they are wasting good potential recurring characters with the way they handled Stephanie and Cluemaster. Stephanie certainly seems a bit old to be Spoiler.

Going back to Superman and Lois though, I just love this show. I love the effects. But I think what I really enjoy the most is Clark being a dad and passing on what his parents taught him. The football scene was great. As was the training in the barn. I just hope WB doesn't screw this up and just let's the team do what they are doing because it is really well done so far.

 

Actually yah they tried to write off Kate Kane and now they're back to "Hey! Kate's back! Sorta!" and Ryan once again seems like a temporary replacement. I've been digging the guy who played Black Mask though, great line delivery like when he's hacking a dude in half with a tablesaw and says it's an internal employee management manner. Even though Alice has literally been running in circles all season I still get a kick out of anything she does.

 

Honestly, Alice is amazing. Just stick her on the Waverider if they cancel Batwoman.