Comics Dark Empire Trilogy

There really isn't room to fit him in with the original 12 Exiles, per the above count. Even if we have one open spot left if Tulak Hord and Red Armor are the same, it should be kept open just in case. Kallig is much better suited to be a second-generation Sith Lord- one of the children or very early descendants of an Exile.

 

Ah, that does make sense, I suppose.

 

Oh, those were the days. I recall how exciting it was to have the Thrawn Trilogy, Dark Empire, and the Tales of the Jedi books, reliving Star Wars. It was so silent from about 84/85, to 1992, and i just loved these books and still do. The new movies should have taken more notes from there, rather than copying the OT movies in large parts.

 

Reading the 2018 leg of this thread has been lovely. It's reminded me why Lit was my favourite Internet haunt for so long.

 

I actually think that there is a lot of Dark Empire trilogy DNA in the ST thus far.

 

I don't. The ST is basically 'Legacy of the Force' with Jacen/Kylo's betrayal, culminating in a final showdown with Jacen/Kylo in 9/Invincible.

 

Thrawn Trilogy raised the attention with great characters/plot. TotJ greatly expanded the galaxy and opened a new era, along with the history of the Sith

Dark Empire was not as good as these two, but still contributed a lot to the post RotJ lore.

 

I don't think snoke is as ancient as abeloth. Im guessing hes a bored rich guy, basically a senior citizen version of the Krath.

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Well I was thinking in both broad and short strokes. There is a hard-reset when it comes to the Rebellion in Dark Empire (and I'll acknowledge the OOU troubles that caused that) which turns into the destruction of the New Republic and rise of the Resistance/new Rebellion. There is a surprising and swift Imperial attack by resurgent Empire forces (the Dark Empire/First Order) and both the First Order and the Dark Empire have a massive, MASSIVE flagship in the Eclipse II/Supremacy. Starkiller Base is a Galaxy Gun of sorts, having the same function but just dressed differently.

Granted, a lot of things don't happen in the same order but there are a lot of similar beats/visuals. An ancient tiny Force User gifts the protagonist with a lightsaber (Vima to Leia/Maz to Rey) The forces of good are cornered on a planet by AT-ATs and forced to flee in the Millenium Falcon...there is even a sabotage mission to sneak onto the Eclipse II/Supremacy to sabotage it in some manner. And the Eclipse II nearly hyperspace rams the Galaxy Gun like Holdo rams the Supremacy. There is even a great old Tree hiding a Jedi Library in both Dark Empire II and The Last Jedi. Luke stands alone in front of the might of the Empire and takes them on single handed.

Granted, there are a **** ton of other elements at play as well. Snoke is an Exar Kun-type who sabotages Luke's Jedi Academy and turns Ben Solo like Exar turned Kyp. Kylo Ren is a (better IMO) version of Darth Caedus--notice I didn't say Jacen Solo. Starkiller Base acts like the StarForge/Centerpoint Station in that it harnesses energy from stars and causes their destruction.

But I personally think the Dark Empire stuff is the most prominently recycled for sure.

 

Can we just pretend that Dark Empire still basically happened, only this time Palpatine successfully possessed the young Ben Solo, unbeknownst to everyone?

Sadly he didn't manage to transfer his memories, just his inclination towards POWER, UNLIMITED POWER and watching Darth Vader's career with great interest.

And thus Kylo Ren was born.

 

If the sole line "the kids are safe on New Alderaan" was removed, Dark Empire could indeed have been fitted into new canon. But that line is there, and the Aftermath trilogy additionally wiped out any chance of this story fitting in with different circumstances for Ben's birth.

And no Palpatine didn't possess Ben Solo because Ben Solo doesn't have Palpatine's patience. Palpatine waited until his 60s, gritting his teeth and wining and dining the Jedi, Orn Free Taa, and even Jar-Jar Binks (one of the TCW novels shows Palpatine commiserating inside about having to chat with Jar Jar) until he fully came out as evil. He waited till the time is right so that his empire will be stable.

Kylo doesn't have this patience. If Kylo were Palpatine, he'd have said "Uncle Luke, what are you doing holding a lightsaber at me? I think you need to go to therapy. I will take care of your students while you get mental help."

Luke would have no choice but to go to therapy, while Kylo then corrupts ALL the students. But Kylo will still pretend to be good. Kylo will infiltrate the Senate and the First Order, secretly let them fight it out, then wait to take over the remains. He'd do stuff a lot more subtle and calculating than his--let's kill Luke's students! Let's kill Snoke! Let's take over the galaxy without a plan!!! Palpatine would just be shaking his head...

 

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My girlfriend for some reason actually did read Dark Empire with the assumption that it led directly into TFA, and so the reference to Han and Leia's other kids completely blew her mind.

 

It would have been better if she read Tatooine Ghost thinking it led into TFA.

 

Hmm, a Cam Kennedy designed Starkiller and Supremacy would have probably been cooler than what we got.

 

They are taking a lot of inspiration from old EU stuff. I only hope some of Cam's crazier ideas come back.

 

Check it out: went to the local shop for Free Comic Book Day, came home with a brand new copy of DE because my trade that i've had l've had over 20 years had gotten worn from use and i figured i'd take the opportunity to have a mint copy complete with all the prose notes in the back.

Now, i didnt think much of it beyond "hey, it's really cool to have found a copy with the notes because i think some later editions didnt have them." Pulled it out tonight to see that it's a 1993 first edition, and the copy i've been reading all these years is the 1995 second edition!



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Yup - I did the same a few years back (donated the worse-condition copy I had to my nephews after finding a better-condition copy), and now that I've checked it - my copy has the same First Edition date.

It does show the set of numbers underneath, running 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1, instead of 10 9 8 7 6 5, as on your copy - do those numbers mean anything?

 

Those numbers indicate the printing. The last number in the line is the printing.
10 9 8 7 6 5 would be the fifth printing of that edition.
10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 would be the first printing of that edition.

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So that means my copy is not just a first edition but a first printing. Nice.

 

A lot can be said about DE, but those Dorman covers were epic.

 

Between Dave Dorman on DE and Hugh Fleming on TOTJ, Star Wars were the most gorgeous comic covers of that time.

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A lot of good things that can be said about DE? I agree!

While I love all of Dorman's work, I think his cover to the first issue of Crimson Empire is maybe his most iconic for me.

Now, Crimson Empire - there's a series where a lot can be said about the interior art, but the covers are flawless

 

Oh. This. Can we please get a previously unknown sister for Ben Solo that returns from exile to hunt him down and destroy him like Jaina did with Jacen?