Comics Dark Empire Trilogy

We do only see Bright eyes on Korriban, as I recall, might be easier for a spirit to exist there than other places.

 

In RotJ Obi-Wans Ghost moved vines when he passed them, force ghosts can be more, corporeal then the term 'ghost' might have one beleive. But even if he was just possessing a body it could be easier to maintain his place in the world of the profane in a dark side nexus like Korriban than else where.

 

Im talking about Lore i know Dark Empire created the Holocrons had connection with Tales of the Jedi etc but Palpatine Resurrection in the EU he is just another random Villain for the New Republic like Exar Kun the Dark Jedi Imperial Remnant Lumiya as Pre Vong Villains something that i like about the EU is that the Skywalkers move on from Palpatine he is long gone something that should have always happened after ROTJ

 

I am also talking about lore. Nar Shaddaas existence and nature is lore

Boba coming back teamed up with dengar is lore.

Hutt clans are lore.

Luke creating the Jedi academy is lore.

Imperial warlords are lore.

Holocrons are lore.

Palpatine is just as much a "random villain" as thrawn.

 

Weird that you brought this up, because I have been meaning to start a thread on what do you guys consider the most influential things that have come from individual EU works.

 

I forgot about Boba Fett return but Thrawn Trilogy is much more important for the Post ROTJ EU Timeline Dark Empire only had a few cameos and references like Crimson Empire but Palpatine Resurrection had a bigger impact for the Disney Universe after Palpatine is killed for good in the EU the Skywalkers move on the Yuuzhan Vong were the big Villains in the Post ROTJ EU

 

Fact of the matter is, the villain of any story is "the" villain of the moment, until the next story comes.

The Vong were prominent...but also nearly disappeared as soon as NJO ended. The Sith, in various guises, persist.

To claim anyone is the "big bad" assumes a cohesive narrative from the start. The Vong are the big bad of the NJO, but not all legends.

Truth be told, the overall impact of DE on the galaxy was nearly as pronounced as the NJO, and in far less time.

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As to TTT...the impact of those stories are more about the style and scope that the EU (particularly books) were going to take moving forward. They captured the excitement of the fanbase in a time when the brand was in serious decline. It established challenges for the heroes after their "happily ever after" ending to ROTJ.

DE is another attempt at kickstarting the franchise in a more surreal and fantastic medium. Compared to TTT, DE powers and spectacles are NUTS, whereas the books felt as though they could be put on film tomorrow.

Both are great, but they are different. Both are essential to what the EU became.

 

Just because Palpatine Resurrection is important for the Disney Universe thanks for the Sequels dont mean Palpatine return had the same impact in the EU most Star Wars fans hated Dark Empire even the EU tried not to recognize the existence of Dark Empire like Mara saying that Palpatine was an imposter Palpatine should never have returned that is the truth both in the EU and Disney Canon

 

Dark Empire gets a bad rep and I honestly think if the coloring was better some of it would go away

 

I think Dark Empire was doomed to an eternal bad rep because the Prequels retroactively made the entire saga all about Anakin and his Grand Destiny to Defeat Palpatine, rather than the fairly straightforward story of the OT where the emperor was a secondary character with 10 minutes of ominous gloating and laughing in the third movie, and like 2 minutes of ominous holo-skyping in the second.

Most of its bad rep seems to come from people who never read it and simply had an instinctive revulsion at the thought of the evil sorceror-emperor also being a space lich, as if that is somehow out of the question. No amount of better coloring would fix that.

 

There's nothing wrong with DE's art, unless you read the colouring literally.

It'd look far worse with the four-colour usual standard of the time.

 

I was there at the time and the idea that "most Star Wars fans hated Dark Empire" simply isn't the case. Very few fans, if any, hated DE when it was first released. It was a HUGE deal, as HTTE had been months before. Remember, the sort of internet-centric, hyper-critical fan culture we have today did not exist in 1991. HTTE had whetted the appetite of a fandom that was starved for Star Wars content, and DE was like nothing we'd ever seen. Fans were, at the time, utterly blown away by an intensity and scope that simply hadn't existed in SW comics previously. Attitudes certainly may have changed as fandom evolved and DE's context within the growing EU changed, but I can tell you that fan reaction back in the day was positive to say the least.

 

Why was there a two year gap between the first Dark Empire and the second?

 

Some felt that Palpatine coming back (or his death at Endor being one of many) cheapened Anakin's sacrifice. It had interesting ideas but could be....wiggy at times.

I felt a better idea was that Palpatine was actively working on a ritual to become a god (sorta like Vitiate) but was killed before he could complete it. Sedriss would be the main antagonist of DE and he's trying to complete the ritual for his own ends.

 

It took time to see how Dark Empire 1 would sell and for them to plan the post-DE1 EU.

 

Nice revisionism many fans said that Dark Empire was one the worst things in the EU read the messages in this forum about Dark Empire from 10 years ago and you will see that many fans hated Dark Empire and the funny thing is that many Pro ST fans and EU haters hated Dark Empire and now they defend the idea of Palpatine Resurrection

 

ten years ago is still over 20 years AFTER Dark Empire released,and well after the "sort of internet-centric, hyper-critical fan culture we have today" was established.

Edit: Bringing up the ST fandom (barely relevent) and basically attacking a section of the fandom actually kinda proves the original point about the hyper-critical internet fandom, barely even relevant

 

I doubt very much that there was ever a time when "most" Star Wars fans hated Dark Empire. But even if that was a prevalent opinion within the fandom ten years ago, it certainly wasn't thirty years ago - and that change in opinion would surely reflect the evolution of the EU, and DE's place in it, more than it would a generation of fans suddenly deciding DE actually sucks for some reason.

 

There's always been an anti-DE crowd who were whining about any or all of - the art, the plot concept, that it was a comic, but a lot of people also liked it for those reasons. Along with HTTE it re-ignited SW merchandise in a way no one saw coming, including DHC. DE issues got second printings due to demand.

Also DHC had the strange idea of giving their production team, particularly the artist, time to produce.

 

The way it happened in either didn’t really gel with me.

 

My personal take is that Anakins redemption was not about killing Palpatine, it was about rescuing Vader. The OT is ultimately Luke's story, and he met the emperor for five minutes or so.

Additionally the few things we knew about palpatine is that he had mysterious and at the time unprecedented powers, was outright telling Luke to kill him(implying he had a plan for if he did), and later on the Prequels even reinforced the necromancer/lich angle of Palpatines with the tale of Plagueis.

The main point of Anakin's redemption isn't how successfully he killed someone who was worse, the main point was for him to actually do a good deed and turn his back on the empire he served for most of his life.

I certainly doubt Anakin was sent directly to Force Hell the moment the Force realized that Palpatine was alive.