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Darth Maul Vs Mara Jade or any other imperial hand who wins

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Quinlan007, Feb 18, 2006.

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  1. Quinlan007

    Quinlan007 Jedi Youngling

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    I read somewhere that the purpose of the imperial hands was the same as Darth Mauls except he was an actual apprentice and sith lord. This makes sense when you think about it. The emperor would need the hands because Vader and Tyranus couldn't do what Maul did. Vader was the emperors very public enforcer and inspired dread wherever he went. And Tyranus was the man he entrusted with starting and bringing forth the clone wars. Neither one of them were the shadowy assasin that Maul was that why he needed Mara Jade and the other hands. That being said who wins Maul vs any of the imperial hands.

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  2. Master_Keralys

    Master_Keralys VIP star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Maul. Hands down. He was trained as a Sith Lord, designed to replace Palpatine (except he really didn't want a successor, but that's not really the point - he was fully trained as a Sith). None of the Hands were, because Palpatine and Vader neither wanted nor needed that kind of possible threat to their power.

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  3. DarthBoba

    DarthBoba Manager Emeritus star 9 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    That's pretty much what I was going to say. Maul is waay beyond any Hand.
     
  4. Master_Shan

    Master_Shan Jedi Master star 3

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    Maul, hand down. NO hand was every trained as throughly as Maul was, he was a Sith lord. No hand comes close.

    Now a case can be made for either Mara Jade or Lumiya now, as a Jedi Master and Sith Lord respectivly....but while they were Hands they didnt have a snowballs chance in hell.
     
  5. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    In before the lock!
    (Technically, "versus" threads aren't allowed in Lit, I do believe)


    But Maul. He was trained to be a superpowered fighting machine, plus he has Sith techiques. It's like in the Darth Maul comic, when he went up against a Nightsister. Total pwnage.
     
  6. Kudzu

    Kudzu Jedi Knight star 5

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    Agreed. Jade circa even New Jedi Order could take Maul, I think. Lumiya might have been able to defeat him after building her lightwhip weapon. But Maul would have crushed teenage Jade or Brie. If Blackhole was still healthy, he might have been able to present a challenge to Maul (he was a Jedi Master, after all ;) ) but he was a sick old man, so no. Arden Lyn lacked the innovative, ferocious new Sith methods that Maul channeled. Stele was only a latent Force-sensitive, IIRC, and his true talents lay in piloting. We know little about Quest, but he wasn't exceptionally strong in the Force, it can be assumed. Ismaren was weak, and I don't know what use Palpatine had for her.
     
  7. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Ismaren was weak, and I don't know what use Palpatine had for her.

    As far as I know, she was used to keep an eye on the activities of the folks of his Imperial court. She was also used for other reasons, like producing an illegimate child(Irek aka Lord Nyax).

    Maul would have little to no problems against any of the imperial hands.
     
  8. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    She was a court spy, and possibly used for the sort of activities which could produce a child, but Irek was actually the son of Sarcev Quest, another Emperor's Hand and court personality.
     
  9. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    I forgot about that. I was mostly correct in my statement then.
     
  10. DarthSparhawk

    DarthSparhawk Jedi Youngling

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    Lord Maul! He will win, trained as a Sith, with excellent combat-style, I'm sure that he'll win!
     
  11. LtNOWIS

    LtNOWIS Jedi Master star 4

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    Well, Sa Cuis gave Vader a run for his credits. But Maul would still beat him.
     
  12. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    Waru could so have taken Maul. If only Palpatine had had the foresight to make him a Hand.
     
  13. exar-tull

    exar-tull Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    darth maul most definantly.
     
  14. Havac

    Havac Former Moderator star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The Hat could so take Waru.
     
  15. CooperTFN

    CooperTFN TFN EU Staff Emeritus star 7 VIP

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    True. Was it a Hand?
     
  16. Knight_Wanderer

    Knight_Wanderer Jedi Master star 2

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    This is, I can say without hyperbole, the only time I can remember actually looking forward to seeing Tiershon_Fett come in and obliterate Mara.

    *grabs some popcorn*

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  17. Thrawn McEwok

    Thrawn McEwok Co-Author: Essential Guide to Warfare star 6 VIP

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    I think the real question is - could young Mara beat padawaan Ben Kenobi?

    That sounds fairly plausible, right?

    o_O Now remember what happened to Maul... [face_whistling]

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  18. Excellence

    Excellence Jedi Knight star 7

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  19. DarthJuggalo

    DarthJuggalo Jedi Youngling star 3

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    To hell with Maul!

    I wanna see Mara Jade vs Asaaj Ventress.

    Preferably in a slave outfit blue milk match. Hells Yeah!
     
  20. Eleventh_Guard

    Eleventh_Guard Jedi Master star 5

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    Darth Maul would beat Mara Jade at any point, assuming equal amounts of training. Mara gets better and better as she practices, and Maul can't improve after his death, so it's not really a fair comparison. If he had as much extra practice time as she did, he would mop the floor with her. (Actually - and I admit that I have only seen Maul in TPM and DM:SH, so later comics/etc. aren't in my mind right now - I think TPM Maul could beat NJO Mara, too. It would be close, but I'd still put my money on Darth Maul.)

    Padawan Obi-Wan would also beat a young Mara, unless by "Padawan" you mean "was still a youngling last week."
     
  21. DarthBoba

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    Hell no. Young Mara struck me as the shallow end of the pool compared to just about any prequel-era Padawan, Obi-Wan definitely included.
     
  22. Master_Shan

    Master_Shan Jedi Master star 3

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    Sigh....no,no,no. Mara Jade by the time she is a Jedi Master is completely able to take on Darth Maul, Kenobi was great as a padawan but not THAT good. As for Maul getting better, no. It says quite matter-of-factly in TPM novelization that Darth Maul was "A warrior in his prime, never to be any better". Anyway, its a hands down waxing around the time of her Mastery, and I think she'd take him as a knight too.

    As for Mara Vrs Asajj, another waxing. She took out Lumiya while she was still ::for all intents and purposses:: a padawan, although I willadmit that Luymiya wasnt much more than one herself, despite her boasts at the time. Either way I'll argue that Lumiya was better trained than asajj was at the time, so if Mara beat her, then she beats Asajj hands down. That being a marker of her ability pre-kinighthood, I feel comfortable saying, yet again, that shed take out Darth Maul quite neatly by the NJO.
     
  23. _ViE_AcheRoN_

    _ViE_AcheRoN_ Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Jerec *probably* could've taken Maul. Most likely Lumiya, at the height of her power, could have as well, but we've never seen her there.

    TPM Maul > NJO Mara. Maul killed two of the Jedi Order's greatest swordsmen. When has Mara ever displayed that much prowess with a blade?

    >>As for Maul getting better, no. It says quite matter-of-factly in TPM novelization that Darth Maul was "A warrior in his prime, never to be any better".<<

    Physically, he was at his prime. There's no limit to how powerful he could have grown in the Force.
     
  24. TheHeroWithNoFear

    TheHeroWithNoFear Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Come on, NJO Mara is good, but Darth Maul is a Sith Lord. These guys are always dangerous even to the greatest of Jedi Masters (Qui-Gon?). Darth Maul was a killing machine and the only NJO's with a chance are probably Kyle, Kyp and maybe Jacen. And Luke of course would best Maul.
     
  25. Ackbar_Van_Gungan

    Ackbar_Van_Gungan Jedi Padawan star 4

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    But could Kyle kill him without the force?





    Yes, Kyle doesn't need to force, the force needs kyle...



    -The Rebel Gungan
     
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