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Comics Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith #19-25: Fortress Vader (7/7 Released)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Ancient Whills, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    One of the most interesting Sith for sure. To me, his creepiness is pretty much on par with Darth Nihilus. Last time we had this unique Sith was in Knight Errant.
    Alternate universe?
     
  2. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Mod-Emperor of the EUC, Lit, RPF and SWC star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Causal loop?


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  3. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Probably depends on how this arc ends. I could see Momin being sent back to the exact moment he left, like how Ahsoka returned to Malachor, or how the Time Lords were sent back to the last day of the Time War on Gallifrey in Doctor Who, effectively sealing their fate by putting them right back into the hell they were trying to escape from.
     
  4. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I don’t think it’s a question of one or the other, but rather a concept of Split Essence. There is precedent for this in both Canon and Legends. In Legends, Palpatine’s spirit fled the destruction of Death Star II and was able to reincarnate in a clone body on Byss. But, at the same time, a portion of his essence was lost forever at Endor, remaining there as a permanent Dark Side nexus that contained some sort of sentience as it tried to assail Leia once. Similarly, Mother Talzin placed a portion of her power in Maul when she restored him to full power and sanity. She only restores this power by draining Dooku of his Force energy. The idea isn’t identical, but I would think that a part of Momin’s essence was transferred into the Mask, while the remainder of it perished when his body was immolated originally. When Momin reaches back using the portal, he pulls the Past Momin out of the timeline just before he’s incinerated, bringing the Intact Momin into the current timeline. I would say that Mask Momin retrieves his past self after a portion of his spirit had passed into the Mask, saving Past Momin at the very point before he died. When Past Momin enters the present and takes the Mask and dons it, Mask Momin and Past Momin’s essences combined into a single entity again, becoming Lord Momin again.



    If I may use an analogy from another franchise, consider the idea of the General Zod Phantom from Smallville and the Major Zod clone. In the final season of Smallville, these two fragments of the original Zod merge to become the fully corporeal General Zod again. Alternatively, consider the Mask to be a Horcrux, like Tom Riddle’s Diary. If the fully corporeal Tom Riddle left the Diary forever and found the incorporeal spirit of Voldemort, the two of them would have merged to become one, fully corporeal body once more. This may not be the best analogy, as a Horcrux can’t actually reunite with the main spirit without feeling a fatal remorse. But the idea of split essence does exist, and I posit that that is what has happened here.
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  5. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    Now thats an explanation that makes a lot of sense
     
  6. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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  7. grungebunny

    grungebunny Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    I loved it. Of course his masterpiece was himself he’s a narcissist. I think it was obvious it was never the castle itself.

    I’m surprised that Vader was surprised at Momins deceit. Anakin showing through there which makes sense considering the objective. You can argue the whole thing is Anakin showing through.

    I still think Vader will give it a go by the end. We are 2 issues from the end which suggests time for Vader’s emotional conclusion. I’m shocked he seemed to actually get somewhere they didnt look hellish. The stars that suggested it was the world between worlds was beautiful. But then in myth people go through Hades to get to paradise. I agree that there is no hint Momin comes from that place. There could be many doors depending on who opens it. I have a rising hope Vader May see something or get some message that keeps alive that little bit of light for Luke to find. It would be nice even though he is a mass murderer who doesn’t deserve it
     
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  8. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    This Sunday theres going to be a Reddit AMA with Charles soule
    LETS GET SOME VADER QUESTIONS ANSWERED
     
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  9. Senpezeco

    Senpezeco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    "We are in the process of closing the last issue now, #25. It’s complex and difficult because we’re trying something new and a little weird with it - but I think it’ll come together and pay off in the end. (And in the meantime, yes, I’m working on new Star Wars stuff. A LOT of new Star Wars stuff… just you wait.)" (source)



    LET HIM [face_praying]
     
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  10. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    Well glad he's got more goodies coming. With Poe over and this ending that frees him up considerably for another whole series or even a novel. :D
     
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  11. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    What do you think he should write next?
     
  12. Todd the Jedi

    Todd the Jedi Mod and Loving Tyrant of SWTV, Lit, & Collecting star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    A Kam Nale miniseries. No one will see it coming and it'll still blow us all away.
     
  13. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Star Wars: Momin

    @Darth Corydon Might Chaos and the World Between Worlds be one and the same?
     
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  14. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Considering Sidious ends up there upon death, I'd hope not.
     
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  15. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Do we know that? It's not like anyone ever said, "I saw Sidious in Chaos".
     
  16. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    To be fair, if they did some one-shots of the Boonta Eve Podracers like they did in that old comic Podracing Tales, I wouldn't complain. They did a great job making some diverse aliens that I wish were used more.
     
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  17. Darth Corydon

    Darth Corydon Jedi Master star 4

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    I doubt it but u never know
     
  18. spicer

    spicer Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Happy that Soule will continue writing Star Wars. I certainly wouldn't mind if he gets a shot at a movie or TV show script!
     
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  19. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    I predict
    Vader does not reach Padme via the dark side, and thus the castle remains a source of hope as well as hopelessness, as he continues visiting the location to attempt the procedure.
     
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  20. Ithorians

    Ithorians Jedi Master star 4

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    What a fantastic issue. The bit about the helmet being changed was hilarious indeed! Seeing now how much time must have happened since the beginning of the arc, it´s understandable that they had the end the series here, but wow, I´m really going to miss it.

    As for what should come next, my vote would be for a miniseries developing the Inquisitors background and perspective. There is a real goldmine waiting in there, at least in the hands of someone like C. Soule. By the way, has there been any news of Shadow of Vader? Still, coming, I presume?
     
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  21. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Entire thing was cancelled.
     
  22. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    I wonder why? Is it really all because of the drama with Wendig?
     
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  23. JediFett10

    JediFett10 Jedi Master star 3

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    Yes


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  24. tatooinesandworm

    tatooinesandworm Jedi Master star 3

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    I can't wait for the first instance of the WBW being used to pull a character from Legends into Canon and everyone loses their minds.
     
  25. KamNale

    KamNale Jedi Master star 2

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    Now that would be interesting. I wonder who they could pull? Oh, I know!

    Waru
     
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