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Kenobi Darth Vader in Kenobi Series

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV- Current and Future Shows' started by RX_Sith, Jul 18, 2020.

  1. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    If they meet, it has to be a loss for Vader. Yes, an inconclusive draw is still a loss for Vader, as his only motivation in meeting Obi-Wan is to exact his revenge and kill Obi-Wan. If Vader fails to do in meetings prior to ANH, those are all losses for him. Not to mention if he cannot beat Obi-Wan until Obi-Wan is old and decrepit, it goes against the notion of Vader being this ultra-powerful Sith Lord. And this is all in addition to disrupting the events of ANH. Causing issues with continuity.
     
  2. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Please no. The more he's used (Rebels, Rogue One, Jedi: Fallen Order), the more his strength as a character is diluted.
     
  3. Vader Bob

    Vader Bob Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I thought he was great in all of those.
     
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  4. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I suppose there is only so many times you can do the same thing with Vader. he mostly appears as the main boss so people know **** just got real. but there is also the issue of over-analyzing him and losing that menace.

    Vader Immortal is probably the biggest look into Vader beyond the comics or books.
     
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  5. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    The other part of not wanting Vader to appear, aside from overuse or continuity issues, is in voicing him. James Earl Jones won't be able to voice him forever. If you listen to his voice in Rogue One, you can hear the age in Jones' voice. And as far as I'm concerned, no one other than Jones should ever voice Vader. Vader in his prime wouldn't feel right with an old man's voice. It pains me to say this, but it may be time to retire Vader from appearing anymore.
     
  6. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They probably won't retire Vader.
     
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  7. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I think they may soon recast the voice actor for Darth Vader, and there's a few who sound like James Earl Jones.
     
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  8. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They will recast when James Earl Jones can no longer voice Vader. if they were gonna recast it would have been some time ago, but nostalgically people want James Earl Jones to voice Vader.

    He is 89 years old. he voiced Vader in Rebels, Rogue and TROS only a few years ago. i suspect that if they didn't recast previously. they won't recast now unless they have no choice.
     
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  9. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    I'm sure they won't retire Vader. It was from my own point of view in that Jones is the only voice for Vader. Without Jones, there is no Vader.
     
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  10. Vader Bob

    Vader Bob Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I don't need for him to be central to whatever show but (for me) he absolutely should have a presence in anything that is timeline appropriate and touches on story lines he'd be relevant to. Even if it's just alluding to him here or there... an occasional shadowy appearance... he just looms so large over that period that keeping him out would seem more forced than incorporating him.
     
  11. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    He was. Disney have used Vader extremely well.
     
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  12. DarthKegs

    DarthKegs Jedi Knight star 1

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    You would like to think Disney have used some foresight and had JEJ into the voice booth for a couple of weeks recording many different dialogue's for potential future use. I'm sure with todays (and tomorrows) technology the sound engineers could take previously recorded words/sentence's and use them effectively for any Vader appearance's in future SW projects.
     
  13. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They probably ain't thinking that far ahead.
     
  14. DarthKegs

    DarthKegs Jedi Knight star 1

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    They'd better start thinking ahead soon then as replacing JEJ's voice is going to be no easy task.
     
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  15. Lord Sith Harloxzz

    Lord Sith Harloxzz Jedi Master star 4

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    Vader trying to find his master make sense but if he show up in Tatooine that will break the lore in many ways
     
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  16. Billy_Dee_Binks

    Billy_Dee_Binks Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rebels Vader is my favourite Vader outside the four live action movies (III-VI). Yes, the scenes featuring him in R1 are cool, but I find his portrayal in Rebels just tops it.
     
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  17. Django Fett

    Django Fett Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    With Vader it really is less is more.

    You use him sparingly, Kenobi has mission on Ahch-To to retrieve something from the first-ish Jedi Temple, he leaves and Vader arrives, missing each other by seconds. And it's that kind of situation repeated, then you have the Anakin moments when he's out of the mask and he's meditating, trying to reach out to his former masters. That's what I'd like to see, I'm sure they could come up with some fresh and new adversaries for Obi-Wan to battle. You can have Inquisitors, Sith Acolytes, former Jedi that are now Dark Jedi...you can even bring back Asajj Ventress.
     
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  18. Intergalactic Lawman

    Intergalactic Lawman Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Oh, yes please! Way too good of an opportunity to pass up :cool: Just make sure it's whoever filled out his body in Rogue One - They were perfect!
     
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  19. Jedi Knight Fett

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    I still don’t want Vader it doesn’t make sense IMO.
     
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  20. Lulu Mars

    Lulu Mars Force Ghost star 4

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    My guess is the point of having Vader appear will be to have Obi-Wan realize that Anakin survived Mustafar. There's no indication in ROTS that he's aware of this, so it would make sense that he assumes he burned to death.
    I don't think the two will meet, but Obi-Wan might come across Imperial propaganda or a newscast where Darth Vader is shown and named.
     
  21. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    People forgetting Matt Sloan and Scott Lawrence exist? Vader will not be retired
     
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  22. Jedi Knight Fett

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    No I am fine with Vader I just don’t want him appearing in the flesh in the show. Maybe over a hologram.
     
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  23. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    You know what those two have in common? They're not James Earl Jones.
     
  24. Jedi Knight Fett

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    Great but they both do a fantastic job and JEJ isn’t going to be around forever. That’s the great thing about Vader. So long as Star Wars is around someone will be playing Vader.

    Look no one beats JEJ but Matt does a bang up job all things considered
     
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  25. Darth Chuck Norris

    Darth Chuck Norris Jedi Master star 4

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    That says it all right there.
     
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