Did Palpatine order the Sandpeople to capture the mother of Anakin

Did Palpatine somehow order the Sandpeople, the most unholy creatures on the planet to capture the mother of Anakin...and ignite his anger for distruction?

 

Yeah, and Mace is a traitor, too. Can't forget that...

 

At this point ,we don't know for certain. I really hope not. Even if it's not mentioned in Ep 3, I wouldn't be surprised if this theory creeps into the EU somewhere.

 

I doubt it. But Shmi was "taken" about a month before Anakin went back to Tattoine, that much we know. But I also don't think the Tuskens will be "talking" to anyone but themselves and what reward would they get anyway.

 

This is one point I doubt. Palpatine has to make himself look good in Anakin's eyes, and killing Anakin's mom wouldn't help him out much in that quest.

 

Well it's not like he would tell Anakin that. In case you didn't notice, Palpatine doesn't always tell the truth, not even (or maybe especially not) to Darth Vader.

 

No, I doubt it. The Tuskens are just viscious psychopaths.

 

Personally, having Palpatine involved in some way with the abduction, would make it seem that Anakin's fall to the darkside, was helped by someone else.

Anakin's fall has to be rested upon his own actions and the point that his reliance on his mother, thinking about her, etc and the fear of losing her, is part and parcel of his eventual fall.

Shmi's capture was due to the hazardous enviroment of Tattoine outside the cities. The Tuskens wouldn't dare enter into crowded places but outside the city, anyone can be prone to the harsh realities.

 

No,

Why would he? He was doing perfectly well seducing Anakin in Coruscant. He didn't need to order a hit by the Tuskens.

They have their own reasons, which are pretty barbaric in their own right.

 

Yeah, we had a large and rather nasty debate about this topic last summer...I'm sure there's a thread on page 42425 or something.

I still think it's possible, but unlikely that Sidious was behind the kidnapping.

Whether it's Sidious or the Will of the Force, something is sure pushing Anakin towards the Dark Side.

Consider this:

He's too old to be trained, but Obi-Wan seems to be doing alright with his young apprentice over the last decade. Anakin is cocky, whiny, hyperactive, and extremely talented...he's the LeBron James of the Jedi. Or any teenage guy.

Then he sees Padme for the 1st time in 10 years: MAJOR temptation that he really doesn't try too hard to resist.

And this just so happens to occur when he is having visions of his mother being in trouble...and she later dies.

I dunno - Palpatine managed to maneuver things so that Anakin got an assignment alone with Padme. It's within the realm of possibility he kidnapped Anakin's mother as well.

I too would rather that NOT be the case.

 

I agree with the general consensus.
It could have happened that way, but I prefer to have it unrelated to Palpatine's plans and hope it'll stay that way.

 

"Did Palpatine order the Sandpeople to capture the mother of Anakin"

I see no evidence to indicate that.

Anakin seems like a side project to Palpatines plan, a happy coincidence, he so far has not been instrumental to his rise to power.

 

I think it would detract from the overall meaning of Anakin's fall and vengeance if Palpatine somehow arranged it.

The fact that Anakin can't cope with such a random disaster (at least on Tatooine), is evidence of his weak willpower.

--Obi-Wan

 

What Abs said.

Palpatine orchestrated a lot of the situations and used a lot of people as his puppets, but this wasn't one of them. In this case, he just took advantage of the darkness Anakin had already fed on by killing the Tuskens after they murdered his mother.

 

It was a "rite of passage" ritual.

 

I hope this isn't going to turn into another debate over whether or not the Sandpeople were wrong, because frankly I don't see that there's a hell of a lot to debate.

 

I was responding to the topic, not your post, a_g.

 

QL...I've always thought he did. Do I have a good argument to back that thought up? Ummm....no.

 

I don't know why this theory keeps coming up; IMO, it's pretty far fetched. Does anyone really think it's at all likely that the supreme chancellor of the senate not only hoofed it to the armpit of the galaxy, but also convinced the locals to capture a woman that, as far as we know, Sidious had never met. How would he convince them to capture Shmi? Why would he? He doesn't need Shmi to push Anakin to the dark side; he seems to be doing a fine enough job there on his own.

 

Yeah, with all the twists, turns, and plots in the Star Wars universe, it does make you wonder.

But then you have to think, are the Tuskan Raiders intellegent enough to have a level headed conversation with people? I always think of the raiders as "animals". They have their clans, similar to a pack of wolves. So there is some amount of organizational skills with the raiders. But as far as them doing anything out of profit, that is pretty far out there.

I would think if the raiders were capable of that level of intelligance, where they could cut deals, like bounty hunters and smugglers, that they would use the profits to a higher advantage, like asking for billions of credits, and having condo's instead of tents out in the desert.

 

Mind you, it just goes to show what a devious genius Palpatine is, for us to even entertain such a possibility... The man's capable of anything.

I agree with Scumb's sentiments about this:

Anakin seems like a side project to Palpatines plan, a happy coincidence, he so far has not been instrumental to his rise to power.

To me, Anakin is a promising and interesting side-interest for Palpatine at the moment. He has great hopes that the boy will prove increasingly useful as time goes on, but his main focus at the moment is on gaining power in the Senate and masterminding the Seperatist/Republic clashes.

 

Why would a bunch of primitive tribesmen follow the orders of some hick from halfway across the galaxy?

 

No I think it was fate, the will of the force.

 

I would love it if that's what happened.

 

it could work in the story itself...but if it is true i would rather have it left up to the EU.....