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Lit Books Disney reported to be refusing to pay royalties to Alan Dean Foster

Discussion in 'Literature' started by fett 4, Nov 18, 2020.

  1. R.D.

    R.D. Jedi Master star 3

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    Have IX involve even more Palpatine clones and have an even weirder retcon for Rey? Yaaay.

    ...but yeah, all in all it still sucks, they're withholding a relative pittance. I imagine this might be some mid-level legal department trying to justify themselves by saying they saved the company a few pennies.
     
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  2. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Here is a revelation from ADF about Rey/Finn romance he was told to cut.



    Here is the full article

    https://comicbook.com/movies/news/s...hor-alan-dean-foster-remove-finn-rey-romance/

    That is OLD news, as in a year old I don;t know why CBR are reporting it now, unless they are looking for click bait that won't upset the mouse.
    Here is a review of it from just as TRoS Was coming out. But yes it is bad.
     
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  3. DarthTalgus

    DarthTalgus Force Ghost star 4

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    It's a crappy thing that Disney has done but trying to piss them off might not be helping the situation. He should've just continued like he was doing, trying to gain support to eventually, hopefully force Disney to pay him his well earned money. Trying to spite them isn't the best strategy here.
     
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  4. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    Since Dis refused to even TALK with him without an NDA I don't think he see's many other options.
     
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  5. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    To be clear, he should get paid the royalties owed him. I just wasn't sure where to post that crap pitch but here. I had no idea it was already out in the wild.

    IG: @jedisufism
     
  6. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    I'm suspecting some rather malign motives in websites suddenly reposting it now, the timing is rather dodgy.
     
  7. AusStig

    AusStig Force Ghost star 5

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    No worries, I didn't think you were doing anything untoward.


    Perhaps, I doubt Dis is paying for anything, either they want clicks or curry favour with the mouse.
     
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  8. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    What do you mean by that? I can't see how there's anything malignant about this whole situation. The underlying principle here is a disagreement on the law. It's really something that the courts should settle. If Disney required to pay these royalties by law, then they should do it. If they're not, then whoever does hold the obligation should pay it instead.
     
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  9. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The motive is clicks. ADF is in the news, so reposting another article about him will entice people who weren’t paying attention the first time around to click in it.


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  10. Jedi Ben

    Jedi Ben Chosen One star 9

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    What should be the case is what you describe but law can be undermined by recourse to info other than facts. Thus tarnish the reputation, make it look like this is an ungrateful individual. It's dirty PR.

    Plus Disney don't have to do anything themselves here, they can rely on the internet being the Internet - Humanity's worst tendencies.
     
  11. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    His Episode IX pitch is bonkers, but I’m fairly sure it’s somewhat of a joke; his way of expressing his opinion on Episode VIII.

    What I am intrigued by is what sort of insider knowledge he had while writing the Episode VII novelization. One of the article’s headlines seems deceptive, because in the actual quotations it sounds like the hints at a Finn-Rey romance were his own addition into the story, which he was asked to remove.

    But still, he had to have had some more info on potentially where Abrams was planning on taking things, or what some of those vague hints may have meant in TFA. For example, it’s curious that in his Episode IX pitch, he also made Snoke a clone, and this was before TROS came out. He also had him being around during the Clone Wars, which matches up with some of the hints his novelization had.

    Some of this, if not most, is possibly just his invention. But like I said, it is intriguing.
     
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  12. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    just read his opinion on TLJ =D=
     
  13. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost star 5

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    According to a Facebook post by James Kahn from nearly a week ago, Disney just recently paid him the royalties he was owed for his Return of the Jedi novelization.

    Not sure what this means for other authors, but he does mention in a comment on the post "Unfortunately some of the other authors haven't had such a sweet outcome yet - hope Dis does the right thing by everybody."

    I searched his profile for the word "royalties" and the only other result was from December, when he shared the WSJ article and said "#Disney hasn't paid me any royalties for Return of the Jedi or Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom since it bought
    Lucasfilm 6 years ago. I'm trying to get what they owe me, but I feel like Luke going up against the Empire. Our best leverage is a public outcry of social media protest."

    Donald F. Glut commented on that December post saying "What's weird, though, is that while Disney stopped paying me royalties for EMPIRE STRIKE BACK since taking over the franchise, they DO keep paying me for royalties on my Marvel comics, TV animation, etc. work."
     
  14. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    With Donald F Glut's statement, it definitely makes me suspect there was some odd licensing language in the early Del Rey era.

    I can't remember, was this a problem for any of the Bantam or later Del Rey authors?

    IG: @jedisufism
     
  15. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    I only just now read his ideas in the above links article.

    A Rey-boter? As a Droid Rights Activists I am intrigued.. but the rest sounds weird. Is there a full pitch to be read anyplace?
     
  16. Jeff_Ferguson

    Jeff_Ferguson Force Ghost star 5

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    Stackpole and Denning both mentioned on Twitter that they were still receiving royalties --- the only issue Stackpole had was with his Dark Horse comics.

    Also, I sent an unsolicited message to L. Neil Smith on Facebook a few months ago but never got a response, but just now I searched his profile for the word "royalties" and found this comment from twelve weeks ago (edited for swears):

    "I had pretty much thev same battle and figure they owe me at least 50 or 60n thousand dollars. They didn't pay me any royalties at all until I threatened to sue them,. Then they paid me a niggling 9 thousand, It wasn't Disney back then. It was LucasFilm and Del Rey. The whole lot are thieving b******s."

    So he's saying that his issue was pre-Disney, which is odd. But the firm "screw the man" mentality of his post fits like a glove with the rest of his aggressively, aggressively libertarian Facebook page --- be careful checking it out; it's like a car wreck from which you just can't look away.
     
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  17. FiveFireRings

    FiveFireRings Jedi Master star 4

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    Bummer, I have really fond memories of the Lando books.
     
  18. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Chosen One star 5

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    I'll avoid looking. Lol

    IG: @jedisufism
     
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  19. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The Lando books are pretty much the only thing he's ever written that aren't "aggressively libertarian." Look up the plot summary to The Probability Breach.
     
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  20. Sauron_18

    Sauron_18 Force Ghost star 5

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    Yup! In his blog, scroll down to the May 1, 2018 for his treatment.
     
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  21. ColeFardreamer

    ColeFardreamer Force Ghost star 5

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    Thx! I read it all now and must say, I prefer the IX we got. But having read it I do not think he meant it as a joke at all. In fact, I am surprised at how many paralells there are to Trevorow's script Duel of the Fates regarding the Coruscant bits. Also some of Fosters ideas seem to directly have inspired TROS even. Either it is a weird case of Co-incidence and authors coming up with the same basic ideas, or they took some of his pitch into consideration but not all of it. That he wrote it 2018 is interesting also, given how far along IX was at this point. Some ideas are crazy, sure but I like this alternate version for some other reasons and might discuss it in more detail in the IX topic to not derail this one.
     
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  22. Quinnocent-Till-Sith

    Quinnocent-Till-Sith Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    https://www.alandeanfoster.com/version2.0/updatesframe.htm
     
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  23. fett 4

    fett 4 Chosen One star 5

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    Finally. Disney were awful . If I was any other writer I'd be real careful before deciding to work for them after all this
     
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  24. The Positive Fan

    The Positive Fan Force Ghost star 4

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    Good to hear this. I hope details are indeed forthcoming, and that such details include an even-handed and thorough discussion of the cause of the dispute and the actual legal issues involved.
     
  25. Daneira

    Daneira Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Even that little statement from Foster is as well written as his literary work! He sure has a way with words.
     
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