Saga Do the Sequels increase or decrease the value of the saga to you?

He didn’t have the term midi-chlorians, but had established strength in the force was related to biology, and the brains of different organisms

 

If Midi-chlorians are organisms in your cells that connects to the Force, isn’t that close to Scientology theology?

 

pretty much this for me too.

 

I'm old... 45 - so old enough to see ROTJ in the theater (and I think TESB, but I don't remember that). Honestly to me most Star Wars movies that have come out since the OT have been mediocre at best. Rogue One is the only film out of all of them I've really liked. However, I have two daughters and one of them is a huge Rey fan and I got to take her to all the ST movies. So yeah, I'm glad they made them. Did I like them that much? No, but other people apparently did so if the movies brought them joy that's good.

Life is too short to waste it hating on things that don't even matter. Now - arguing about things that don't matter is fun... but all the actual hating is nuts.

 

It's like poetry - it rhymes

 

No. The story could easily end at VI. What the sequels could have done was expand the story and give us a good reason why the story should carry on. What was left unresolved at the end of VI? The only episode that tried to do that was IX which revealed that Palpatine had worked out how to cheat death. It also gave us Exegol and the heart of the Sith. TFA and TLJ were missed opportunities to do world building and just chose to press the reset button and repeat what we'd already seen.

 

I have lots of problems with the prequels, but I'd be willing to say they generally have a positive impact on Star Wars as a whole. The sequels on the other hand feel like a star wars fever dream. Characters move from point A to point B without developing emotionally at all. There was a lit of potential here, a lot of opportunities for them to tell a story that was a little new and fresh but still felt like a Star Wars film. But those opportunities were overshadowed by conflicts between directors and a lack of follow through. Forget about the kid force pulling the broom. Where was the follow up for our main characters? Poe was knocked down a peg in the last film and shown that his loose gun style of leadership would cost lives. Where was the follow up to show that this experience changed him? Apply those t
Last two sentences to Rey and Fin. Chewbacca had more emotional development than Rey did.

"The shield is strong enough to deflect any bombardment."
But the shield only covers 1/4th of the planet. So flying laterally off world is not an option, the Imperials would simply snipe their ships out of the air from space. Using the Ion Canon to break out through the blockade is the only reasonable option.

In The Force Awakens Han Solo's strategy for infiltrating Starkiller Base is to exit hyperspace in the atmosphere. (Also insert the insane hyperspace hopping garbage from the beginning of TROS)

Ships don't jump in and out of hyperspace in the gravity well of a planet. It's one of the details that makes the escape from Mos Eisley, the Battle of Hoth, and the escape from Theed all make sense.

This makes for cool visual effects, but cheapens the franchise as a whole by making a lot of key moments from the previous movies seem silly.

 

I feel like TCW started it.

 

Speaking of that, this video sums up what damage the ST has done to the legacy characters such as Luke, Han and Leia, and the main story and morality tale told in both the OT and PT, and the whole structure of the Star Wars universe as well, by "subverting expectations" as the folks at Disney/Lucasfilm would say:

 

That's the approach I'm taking now: everything that is Disney-Star Wars has become optional to me. I can take it or leave it, and ignore everything that Disney has tried to craft after Return of the Jedi...

 

No.

TFA: A soulles, cynical corporate product. I only like some of the stuff with Finn, if only because Boyega brings real heart to his character.

TLJ: There is some good in this movie; unlike Abrams, Johnson at least has some talent. But the bad is so godawful terrible that, it completely wipes out any good in the movie.

TROS: A hilarious mess. I only like Lando and Threepio in this.

Frankly, I blasted the entire trilogy out of my headcanon a long time ago.

 

I've said this a million times, but wait 5-10 years and we'll see what the general sentiment is.

 

The Children who watched them will shape it like the Prequel trilogy.

 

Just look at what happened with Obi-Wan, people were thrilled to see Ewan and Hayden back. Looks like opinions have changed to me.

 

Wait for E10-12 to come out and watch the nostalgia for the ST grow, becaus the next trilogy is worse

 

With modern Hollywood i believe it.

 

I dissgree with you there.

 

Well, the sequels have BB-8 and porgs and Babu Frik. You do the math.

 

This thought process is only true if one accepts that the PT was universally hated back in the day.
Which is simply wrong.

If you are saying that these 3 are enough for people to resonate with the ST in 10 years, oh boy we are in trouble.
People resonate with the PT for a whole lot more than cute creatures and droids.

 

And Dobbu Scay!

 

I was a prequel era kid (lol, time flies) and to this date the prequel movies remain my favourite. And while I think that growing up with them and all the fond memories are obviously going to be a positive influencing factor, I remember loving them since day one. We should also take into account that the way we use the Internet nowadays is very different to the early 2000s. Sure, fans used forums to express their opinions, but by the time Attack of the Clones came out I was nine and I didn't really have that much access to the Internet, while nowadays most kids have access to social media etc. and it's easier for them to express their opinions.

What I mean to say with this is that I don't think that as the years have gone by, fans' love for the prequels has increased or anything like that. I think that the love for the prequels was already there, the difference being that now it's easier for all of us to voice our opinions

 

I consider the Sequels as an dystopian Star Wars Elseworld of what could have happen after Return of the Jedi a world where the house of Palpatine are the main protagonists the Sequels for me are part of a Dark timeline while the post Legends Return of the Jedi is the Happy timeline i enjoy the Sequels more with this perspective