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CT Does a little part of you wish there were still only 3 movies?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by May The Force Be With Stu, May 2, 2020.

  1. FightoftheForgotten

    FightoftheForgotten Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I agree with this 100%. It's what I was getting at. I in no way ever expected the ST to take place after FATE OF THE JEDI. I honestly expected a trilogy about the Solo twins and Mara Jade as the BIG THREE going against Thrawn. Sort of mixing The NJO with the Thrawn Trilogy.
     
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  2. Reepicheep775

    Reepicheep775 Jedi Master star 4

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    Yep. That would have been great.

    About a post-FotJ/Crucible ST though... I remember being annoyed after seeing TFA because the state of the galaxy was so confusing. The Alliance won the war. Why are they now a "Resistance"? And what does this have to do with the Republic... which we see for five seconds before it is blown to smithereens. What exactly is the First Order? A terrorist organization? Then why are we getting these wide shots, emphasizing their apparently massive scale? How are they able to build the Starkiller Base?

    If things are going to be this confusing, they may as well have kept the EU canon and have a partially Vongformed Coruscant, an absent Chewbacca, Ben Skywalker pining after a Sith girl from a planet of ancient Sith, and all the rest of it.
     
  3. FightoftheForgotten

    FightoftheForgotten Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I cannot track down the quote, but Pablo Hidalgo said that the original idea behind the ST was that the Republic didn't take the FO seriously as a threat, but Leia knew better and started the Resistance to fight the FO within the FO territory. So basically you'd have the FO as it's own government with the Resistance fighting them in a Civil War scenario while the Republic sat on the sidelines, not taking it seriously.

    And apparently JJ changed that idea at the last minute because Padlo Hidalgo said even he was surprised when he saw the text crawl on opening night state that the Republic was supporting the Resistance.

    So basically the whole ST exists on a contradiction. The Republic doesn't take the FO seriously which is why they aren't fighting them, but also takes them seriously enough to fund the Resistance. Which is why (imho) everything falls flat because even by the films end you never really know what the stakes are.
     
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  4. Reepicheep775

    Reepicheep775 Jedi Master star 4

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    I don't think it's necessarily a contradiction. It could be that some in the Republic, maybe Chancellor Villecham, think that the First Order is a potential threat, but there are political consequences to waging war against them, so they fund the Resistance under the table instead. There could be First Order sympathizers in the Senate who Villecham is trying to appease or maybe there's worry that another war would tear the fledgling Republic apart. It's actually not a bad setup. There's political complexity there that could have provided a good backdrop to the film if only the filmmakers hadn't been allergic to political exposition. I always go back to the board room scene in ANH. TFA needed a scene like that.
     
  5. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    Not sure if this has been mentioned already during the last few pages, but regarding the current topic of conversation: I recommend reading Bloodline. It's a great SW book (one of my favorites actually), Leia is the main character, and much of the story covers all that is currently being discussed here, and may provide some nice clarification on the political state of the galaxy-not to mention the emergence of the FO and the Resistance-in the six years leading up to TFA.
     
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  6. Classified8

    Classified8 Jedi Master star 4

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    Now that it's all over......yeah.

    I was a child in the '70s and saw Star Wars before it was a phenomenon. I loved much of the ST but I've come to realize that you can't ever truly recapture the original feeling.
     
  7. Reepicheep775

    Reepicheep775 Jedi Master star 4

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    That's one of the Disney canon books I definitely want to check out one of these days. I'll probably do a read through of all of Claudia Gray's Star Wars books. They all look interesting.
     
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  8. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    It's great. So much so, I might actually read it again-cos I read it back in 2016, before I had seen TLJ or TROS, when all the Disneycanon was first getting started. But for anyone who wants to know more about the state of the galaxy (not to mention what Han and Chewie were up to) leading up to how things became by the time of TFA it's a must-read. There's also some other awesome things involving Leia and the Skywalker family (that I won't spoil here if it's not already known). But the nice thing about it is it's also not TOO political-y.
     
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  9. SateleNovelist11

    SateleNovelist11 Force Ghost star 6

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    Star Wars would be wonderful with only three films and an Expanded Universe. But I feel that the first six films are the best, and the ways in which they influenced the old EU were great. I'm not a fan of the new trilogy or the Disney EU. But if I could only have three films without this particular sequel trilogy, that would be a far better thing in my eyes.
     
  10. Rachel_In_Red

    Rachel_In_Red Jedi Master star 3

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    I'm good with the OT and PT, but I would prefer the ROTJ ending and no ST.
     
  11. C.Roach

    C.Roach Jedi Knight star 2

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    1977-83 is more than enough.
     
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  12. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    Same here. Could have even been ok with spin-offs taking place during the time of the PT-OT, just no ST.
     
  13. DarthKreVass

    DarthKreVass Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    Personally, I am glad they made the prequels. Love 'em! Not sure the sequel trilogy was necessary. Still fun films, with TLJ being the one that I love the most.
     
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  14. christophero30

    christophero30 Chosen One star 10

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    I'd be happy with 6 and some spin offs like RO and the Mandalorian.
     
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  15. Fredrik Vallestrand

    Fredrik Vallestrand Force Ghost star 7

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    I be happy with just the OT and ST, the PT being a bonus backstory. the extended universe is a big bonus.
     
  16. Stellarannex

    Stellarannex Jedi Youngling

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    Always has been. ‍:storm:
     
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  17. CampOfSorgan

    CampOfSorgan Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Apart of me wishes there was just the Lucas saga. Episodes I-VI. I’m glad others enjoyed the ST but it was not my cup of tea. The Originals are my favorite but I love the Prequels as well.
     
  18. Iceblazer

    Iceblazer Jedi Padawan

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    I agree.
    I-VI had a story to tell.
    VII-IX had money to make, not that I-VI didn't, but if you take away VII-IX, you're not left with any less.
     
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  19. imperial scum

    imperial scum Jedi Padawan star 1

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    The numbering started with Empire Strikes Back, but i agree that the classics are special. The Prequels were innovative, pioneering CGI-technology, but they couldn't rekindle the lighting in a bottle, and they were controversial because they didn't grew with the fanbase. George wanted to tell stories for children.
     
  20. Thena

    Thena Chosen One star 7

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    This has been true since the first movie.
     
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  21. Daxon101

    Daxon101 Force Ghost star 6

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    Really i imagine there are many who wish they had not done more than 3 movies. mostly because the OT was so iconic in pop culture. with everyone gushing over it. but now because Disney are gonna milk this machine dry... its never gonna be that kinda film trilogy ever again.

    And i won't get into the reception over the prequels because i ain't ever been totally sure whether the bashing the prequels got was really deserved and with the newfound love towards the PT I'm even more unsure whether they deserved the bashing they got.
     
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  22. wobbits

    wobbits Force Ghost star 4

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    No. I grew up with the OT but love the PT just as much. Also enjoyed R1 and Solo.