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Lit Episode VIII - THE LAST JEDI - Official Movie Discussion Thread (Tags Required for rumors/spoilers)

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Karl0413, Feb 5, 2016.

  1. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    TCW also went back to Jedi Quest, by making the homeworld of gundarks, be Vanqor.
     
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  2. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    How is it different?

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  3. The_Four_Dot_Elipsis

    The_Four_Dot_Elipsis Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    While also kinda wrecking it by having it be the first time Obi-Wan went there
     
  4. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    Did he actually say he'd never been to Vanqor before, or just imply it with the "Then this must be Vanqor" comment?


    Keep in mind that in AOTC him and Anakin talk about falling into a nest of gundarks (the Jedi Quest book with the Vanqor scenes was created after AOTC, providing backstory to that remark).
     
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  5. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    speaking of AOTC marketing does anyone have that gif they had around the time where they digitally morphed Jake Loyd into Hayden Christensen? that was so weird.
     
  6. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    Anyway on topic



    Funny quip but I say the guard just drops it. Is that when Rey gets the slash on her arm anyway?
     
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  7. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I just saw that.

    I dunno. Clearer images clearly show it just disappears. Even if we say he dropped it, that's just us explaining it away.

    That's just bad.

    And we didn't notice.
     
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  8. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The only way to notice is watching it frame by frame, so it's kind of making something out of nothing.

    They only continuity break that bothers me is when Rey is training with her staff on Ahch-To. There's a close up shot looking at her face up the staff, and she's for her elbow up, staff resting near her cheek. Next shot is from behind, and the stuff is under her arm. Stuff like that bothers me. Especially because the close up is a very awkward way to hold that staff, and Daisy doesnt look confident holding it like that. Like ahe didnt put in the training time she obviously did elsewhere.

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  9. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Uh...you're concerned by some wonky staff shot that doesn't really affect story.

    That scene above should essentially end with the guard stabbing her in the back and ending her character arc.

    Instead the knife just...disappears.
     
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  10. Dawud786

    Dawud786 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    If it were more obvious i'd be concerned, but it's so subtle it practically doesnt exist. The other is so jarring it takes me out of the film.

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  11. Dr. Steve Brule

    Dr. Steve Brule Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So I was flipping through the Art of TLJ some more, and I realized there does seem to be concept art for a First Order attack on Ahch-To and a Luke/Rey/Kylo confrontation on the island. It took me this long to realize it, because there's nothing in the text that mentions this, or even descriptions of those images, but that's obviously what they are. But given there's no mention from Johnson in the text about this being considered at any point, I wonder if it was from very early (pre-rough draft) ideas he had for an outline, or just something the art crew went with.
     
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  12. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 4

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    This is the only part of your statement that matters. Calm down.
     
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  13. Coherent Axe

    Coherent Axe Jedi Master star 4

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    Same with the TFA art book, I believe they left out stuff from the film's climax to avoid spoilers leaking. You'll notice the TLJ one starts with concepts of Han's death and Luke's island from TFA. Some art from the Crait battle and of Luke's death has been released online since, I believe, and presumably it'll show up in the IX art book.

    EDIT: In fact, as I recall, the shot in the book of the walkers on Crait has Luke cropped out to preserve the spoiler, and the full version was released online later.
     
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  14. BobaMatt

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    The knife thing is odd because it seems to be a practical prop in what's obviously an incredibly intricate fight choreography. I wonder what happened
     
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  15. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Matt, it's probably as the joke went. Unable to figure out how to finish that without concluding she should be stabbed, they simply made the knife go bye bye.

    Jedi Princess: Don't be condescending.It's rude.

    The person making the joke on twitter is most likely right though. We didn't notice.

    The issue in that scene for me is that the choreography in that scene does affect plot. The knife simply disappears when it could be utilized. Just because you didn't notice doesn't make it any less true.
     
  16. BobaMatt

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    This seems unlikely to me because...
    It's a very intensely choreographed sequence, so I have trouble believing "But what about the other knife" wasn't something that came up in the process of building and rehearsing this fight. It's clearly a mistake in the final cut, but I wonder what happened, is all.

    When did it become so in vogue to think that everyone who works in movies is lazy, cynical, and bad at their jobs?
     
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  17. Jedi Princess

    Jedi Princess Jedi Master star 4

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    No condescension intended. Just, you didn't notice it, most people didn't notice it, things like this happen in movies all the time and no one notices them. Sidious' lightsaber changes between shots in Revenge of the Sith. Most of Luke's blows on the sail barge in Return of the Jedi don't land. TIE fighters pop out of nowhere in the asteroid field and the Death Star II battle. Now that someone's pointed it out, now it's suddenly an "issue".
     
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  18. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    The Prequels. Or at least, around that time is when I noticed films becoming more and more scrutinized in this nature. I remember when film criticism wasn't just weirdos posting long diatribes on the internet in blogs or on Youtube about why a movie sucked.
     
  19. Ulicus

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    I would assume the knife had such a keen edge it accidentally cut itself from the film.
     
  20. Vialco

    Vialco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I noticed something else off with that particular guard, without anyone pointing it out. After Rey deals him a very superficial slash, he disengages completely and the next time we see him, he's standing at his original post by the crimson drape, just unsheathing his weapons. Which makes absolutely no sense.

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  21. BobaMatt

    BobaMatt TFN EU Staff star 7 VIP

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    Mind posting the clip and pointing it out?
     
  22. vncredleader

    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    On some level I like the fact that anyone and everyone can have their voice heard more than ever, but yeah this has also empowered the "scream the loudest" past of fandom


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    This is fine IMO cause he just seems to be collecting himself and then breaking his weapon into two, which it was not in when he engaged Rey earlier.
     
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  23. Vialco

    Vialco Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I guess so....he sure takes a long time to collect himself while his comrades are being trounced one by one.

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    vncredleader Jedi Master star 4

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    This is fine IMO cause he just seems to be collecting himself and then breaking his weapon into two, which it was not in when he engaged Rey earlier.
    Didn't you see the scene earlier when he talks about how they all owe him money for movie tickets that they PROMISED they would pay him back for?
     
  25. BigAl6ft6

    BigAl6ft6 Force Ghost star 6

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    dude needed a moment, just saw his boss chopped in half, cut him a break.
     
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